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Re: 2018 Rd 13: Post Game Prattling-Carlton v Fremantle - PaulP - 06-18-2018
(06-18-2018, 09:25 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Can you have a good culture and lose games? Can you have a bad culture and win premierships?
It's possible. I think for discussion purposes, one can distinguish between on field and off field culture, although in reality they're tightly intertwined. We don't seem to have any troublemakers, but we don't really seem to have any match winners either.
Thinking solely about the mens senior team for now, my hope is that what we are seeing is down to inexperience and growing pains, that simply with the passage of time, games into kids, games into Bolton, that the boys will get it together. But maybe I'm naive.
Re: 2018 Rd 13: Post Game Prattling-Carlton v Fremantle - Micky0 - 06-18-2018
Why wouldn’t he be played if he earned it in the VFL?
Re: 2018 Rd 13: Post Game Prattling-Carlton v Fremantle - Thryleon - 06-18-2018
Two out of twenty two games....
Expand it by ten more games.
If you add more than three wins you can ignore that bullcrap.
Re: 2018 Rd 13: Post Game Prattling-Carlton v Fremantle - blue4life - 06-18-2018
(06-18-2018, 09:25 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Can you have a good culture and lose games? Can you have a bad culture and win premierships?
West Coast would say yes, but culture can mean different things to different people.
Carlton's culture was one of unbridled arrogance, we've certainly got nothing to be arrogant about these days but old habits die hard.
Re: 2018 Rd 13: Post Game Prattling-Carlton v Fremantle - Thryleon - 06-18-2018
There's a couple of different types of culture.
One is to do with the players. This culture isn't as important to be good or bad so long as they're committed to the club. I think this is what Richmond have managed to work out over the last three years. They're not model professionals but they're committed to each other and the club.
The most important culture is club culture. It's the basis for how everything at the football club operates whilst they're there. It's what makes people feel valued and it's what dictates how people operate.
Our club has not been the model of operations in recent history.
Once upon a time we had the reputation as being the professionals. Now we're playing catch up.
Re: 2018 Rd 13: Post Game Prattling-Carlton v Fremantle - Lods - 06-19-2018
Who's talking the most sense in this segment...I know who I pick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiL9Y3E4E20&feature=youtu.be
Re: 2018 Rd 13: Post Game Prattling-Carlton v Fremantle - LP - 06-19-2018
There are three hell bent on whacking our kids and our coach, no matter what happened on the day they are not prepared to give any ground.
There is some irony around Duck being a voice of intelligent reason! I believe Duck when he says he cares for the game, the other clearly go for the glory, ratings and content that controversy brings! Of course Duck is probably the only one on the panel that doesn't need the job!
The worry is that our club will again allow itself to be driven by the media, in much the same way that the MM appointment came about!
Re: 2018 Rd 13: Post Game Prattling-Carlton v Fremantle - northernblue - 06-19-2018
TF is the only footy show I get to watch and I’ve noted that Duck is a big supporter of Bolton/CFC, makes a nice change.
As for the issues raised, everyone’s point was valid.
Re: 2018 Rd 13: Post Game Prattling-Carlton v Fremantle - LP - 06-19-2018
(06-19-2018, 01:02 AM)northernblue link Wrote:TF is the only footy show I get to watch and I’ve noted that Duck is a big supporter of Bolton/CFC, makes a nice change.
As for the issues raised, everyone’s point was valid.
You can tell from the comments made who are men and who are boys, you can also build a loose association between the type of comments they make and the type of player they were. Players who kick somebody when they are down! Have a look at Lyon joining in the kicking today, Garry Lyon, really?
Again given the context of this discussion the Duck perspective has it's irony, but he's clearly the man!
Lets not mince words, Darcy is pushing the wagon to deflect from the Dogs dismal efforts(Did you know they were premiers two seasons ago, yet Carlton is the big issue after the weekend!), BT is led like a brainless bull into any debate that delivers him a feed, and Brown is beholding to the scraps offered by others. They are are bottom feeders that would make Hunchy proud!
Re: 2018 Rd 13: Post Game Prattling-Carlton v Fremantle - Thryleon - 06-19-2018
(06-19-2018, 02:10 AM)LP link Wrote:You can tell from the comments made who are men and who are boys, you can also build a loose association between the type of comments they make and the type of player they were. Players who kick somebody when they are down! Have a look at Lyon joining in the kicking today, Garry Lyon, really?
Again given the context of this discussion the Duck perspective has it's irony, but he's clearly the man!
Lets not mince words, Darcy is pushing the wagon to deflect from the Dogs dismal efforts(Did you know they were premiers two seasons ago, yet Carlton is the big issue after the weekend!), BT is led like a brainless bull into any debate that delivers him a feed, and Brown is beholding to the scraps offered by others. They are are bottom feeders that would make Hunchy proud!
BT is a fool.
He doesn't have anything worth noting to say and speaks only to be heard.