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Re: JLT game 3 - kruddler - 03-12-2017
(03-12-2017, 08:23 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Well, thank you for clarifying that. I can honestly say I never would have got that impression from reading your posts.
The impression that you get is often based on your own opinions and expectations.
Ask anyone who has been around this site long enough and they will know my distaste for Pagan.
Doubt anyone would say the same about Ratten.
Most people opinions are incorrect when it comes to my feelings on Malthouse too.
Point is. Don't assume. Ask.
FWIW, Bolton has been nothing but encouraging so far. I'm backing him in for the long haul. I am not surprised by the (lack of) performance of the team thus far in the JLT series and am in no way calling for his head.
I am slightly disappointed with the (lack of) effort that has been put in thus far, but in all honesty, it isn't all that different from the tail end of last season. The same part of the season that most people seem to ignore when talking about expectations for this year.
Having said that, Bolton still has a few hoops to jump through and is still largely unproven.
We'll see how different the regular season is compared to practice matches and it'll give a bit of an insight into what to expect.
Re: JLT game 3 - Thryleon - 03-12-2017
(03-12-2017, 05:14 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:All I am saying is lets draw a line in the sand and move on.
54% of the List is BBs
24% is MMs
15% is Rattens
7% in DPs
Majority of the list is BB's, will be swayed even more his way after this year. Thats enough for me to look fwd instead of back and not hijack every thread with same BS.
One bad apple can spoil the entire barrel.
If we don't have players in it for the team first, then they will spoil some of the others.
Re: JLT game 3 - PaulP - 03-12-2017
(03-12-2017, 10:04 AM)kruddler link Wrote:The impression that you get is often based on your own opinions and expectations.
Ask anyone who has been around this site long enough and they will know my distaste for Pagan.
Doubt anyone would say the same about Ratten.
Most people opinions are incorrect when it comes to my feelings on Malthouse too.
Point is. Don't assume. Ask.
FWIW, Bolton has been nothing but encouraging so far. I'm backing him in for the long haul. I am not surprised by the (lack of) performance of the team thus far in the JLT series and am in no way calling for his head.
I am slightly disappointed with the (lack of) effort that has been put in thus far, but in all honesty, it isn't all that different from the tail end of last season. The same part of the season that most people seem to ignore when talking about expectations for this year.
Having said that, Bolton still has a few hoops to jump through and is still largely unproven.
We'll see how different the regular season is compared to practice matches and it'll give a bit of an insight into what to expect.
The confusion arises because you've been far too strident and vehement in your pro Mick comments - you need to be more balanced, like me.
Re: JLT game 3 - PaulP - 03-12-2017
(03-12-2017, 10:07 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:One bad apple can spoil the entire barrel.
If we don't have players in it for the team first, then they will spoil some of the others.
I think players can tolerate a small amount of me me me attitude if they see reward for effort. You can have a great team first player (e.g. Cas or Curnow E), but those turnovers and missed goals must take their toll after a while.
It depends on the composition of the team - some blokes are less resilient and more easily led astray than others. If by good chance you have a team of mostly resilient types, they could reap the benefits of a talented and slightly selfish player, because they work work around his deficiencies.
A lot of those elite talented players (Fev, Fyfe, Carey etc.) do have a certain arrogance and me first nature - what is super rare are the Judd and Doull types, terrific players that are also team first.
Re: JLT game 3 - kruddler - 03-12-2017
(03-12-2017, 10:55 AM)PaulP link Wrote:The confusion arises because you've been far too strident and vehement in your pro Mick comments - you need to be more balanced, like me.
Last time.
'Pro mick' or 'anti-others'?
Your take on that depends on your point of view.
MBB understands a lot of what i say because he sees it for what it is. Not so much pro-mick, but a lot of $h!t everywhere else.
Re: JLT game 3 - Thryleon - 03-12-2017
(03-12-2017, 11:04 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I think players can tolerate a small amount of me me me attitude if they see reward for effort. You can have a great team first player (e.g. Cas or Curnow E), but those turnovers and missed goals must take their toll after a while.
It depends on the composition of the team - some blokes are less resilient and more easily led astray than others. If by good chance you have a team of mostly resilient types, they could reap the benefits of a talented and slightly selfish player, because they work work around his deficiencies.
A lot of those elite talented players (Fev, Fyfe, Carey etc.) do have a certain arrogance and me first nature - what is super rare are the Judd and Doull types, terrific players that are also team first.
Only a strong team ethos can sort out the me first players.
They need to join it.
We are the opposite. due to average quality being so low, any half talent with a bad attitude plays for themselves.
Flip it around and you see us of the mid 2000's and there is no end to it until you shock the culture.
Re: JLT game 3 - PaulP - 03-12-2017
(03-12-2017, 11:12 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Last time.
'Pro mick' or 'anti-others'?
Your take on that depends on your point of view.
MBB understands a lot of what i say because he sees it for what it is. Not so much pro-mick, but a lot of $h!t everywhere else.
Dude, everybody thinks they see it for what it is, not just you.
Re: JLT game 3 - DJC - 03-12-2017
(03-12-2017, 11:12 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Last time.
'Pro mick' or 'anti-others'?
Your take on that depends on your point of view.
MBB understands a lot of what i say because he sees it for what it is. Not so much pro-mick, but a lot of $h!t everywhere else.
So you're both delusional
Re: JLT game 3 - Boundaryrider - 03-12-2017
Strong captain. Strong captain. Strong captain. C:-)
Re: JLT game 3 - kruddler - 03-12-2017
(03-12-2017, 11:21 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Dude, everybody thinks they see it for what it is, not just you.
Cmon man, focus.
I'm saying you interpreting MY posts is based on your views.
I know the intention behind them because they are MY posts. If you misunderstand them then that is on you. Ala your Ratten comments before.