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Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Sydney at Etihad - jeza - 03-12-2016
(03-12-2016, 12:09 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Fair enough. My reasoning has to do with a couple of factors :
1. If he is closer to goal, it increases the chance of him kicking goals, which is a confidence booster for him and a morale booster for the team. He has no trouble clunking marks - it's what happens after that is the problem. Having him at FF would also save some gas, which is no bad thing with the new reduced rotations.
2. I also think it plays into opposition hands to have him further from goal. Clearly the rest of the comp know he is an elite mark, so I reckon they'd be less worried if he was clunking them 50 out rather than 20 out. I know if I was the opposition coach, I wouldn't want Cas playing at FF. If he gets double or triple teamed, it creates problems for the defense and chances for our other forwards.
My 2cents.
No such thing as FF / CHF these days really. They all just roam around the ground.
Nobody seemed to be able to take a contested mark last night. Casboult missed a truckload that he'd normally clunk.
Hopefully he saved all his good play for the tiges.
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Sydney at Etihad - PaulP - 03-12-2016
True enough - if that's the case, then hopefully the end of his roaming will be about 20m from goal, with a set shot to come............
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Sydney at Etihad - jeza - 03-12-2016
Cripps 24 pos 16 contested. 9 clearances 4 tackles
He only played 53% of the game.
ridiculous how good this guy is.
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Sydney at Etihad - DJC - 03-12-2016
(03-12-2016, 12:30 AM)jeza link Wrote:No such thing as FF / CHF these days really. They all just roam around the ground.
Nobody seemed to be able to take a contested mark last night. Casboult missed a truckload that he'd normally clunk.
Hopefully he saved all his good play for the tiges.
Key forwards have to present as a marking target when the ball is coming out of defence. How often did a key forward stay inside the forward 50 when the ball was at the opposite end of the ground?
Marking was quite ordinary with players from both sides seemed to misjudge the flight of the ball ??? There were some exceptions, Rowe and Weitering for example. Phillips judged the flight perfectly on one occasion but his hands were so hard that there was a resounding clap and the ball flew metres away. It was like he had decided to do a double handed palm out :o
I thought that the Swans did well to stop Casboult getting a run at the ball and he was forced into contests against two opponents. Having another genuine marking target would make his life a lot easier.
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Sydney at Etihad - PaulP - 03-12-2016
(03-12-2016, 12:55 AM)jeza link Wrote:Cripps 24 pos 16 contested. 9 clearances 4 tackles
He only played 53% of the game.
ridiculous how good this guy is.
Are those figures correct ? Crikey that's impressive. He played basically 2 quarters, against a hardened, premiership midfield going full tilt, and averaging out his figures, per quarter he had 12 possies (8 contested), 4 clearances and 2 tackles. Golly.
Actually, that tackle count is pretty low. Sack him.
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Sydney at Etihad - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-12-2016
(03-12-2016, 12:09 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Fair enough. My reasoning has to do with a couple of factors :
1. If he is closer to goal, it increases the chance of him kicking goals, which is a confidence booster for him and a morale booster for the team. He has no trouble clunking marks - it's what happens after that is the problem. Having him at FF would also save some gas, which is no bad thing with the new reduced rotations.
2. I also think it plays into opposition hands to have him further from goal. Clearly the rest of the comp know he is an elite mark, so I reckon they'd be less worried if he was clunking them 50 out rather than 20 out. I know if I was the opposition coach, I wouldn't want Cas playing at FF. If he gets double or triple teamed, it creates problems for the defense and chances for our other forwards.
My 2cents.
Casboult will always get the double team until we get another decent marking target who can drag some heat of the Boult and leave him one out....reckon we need a leading FF who can work up the ground more and suck opposing players up the ground..Jaksch or Foster would be the ones I would try....
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Sydney at Etihad - PaulP - 03-12-2016
(03-12-2016, 01:23 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Casboult will always get the double team until we get another decent marking target who can drag some heat of the Boult and leave him one out....reckon we need a leading FF who can work up the ground more and suck opposing players up the ground..Jaksch or Foster would be the ones I would try....
Where's the "Bring Back Fev" thread ?
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Sydney at Etihad - jeza - 03-12-2016
(03-12-2016, 01:10 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Are those figures correct ?
I think so. ..
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/nab-challenge/2016/1/carl-v-syd
Go to the stats tab then Advanced stats.
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Sydney at Etihad - PaulP - 03-12-2016
(03-12-2016, 01:28 AM)jeza link Wrote:I think so. ..
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/nab-challenge/2016/1/carl-v-syd
Go to the stats tab then Advanced stats.
My question was rhetorical. I knew they were right.
I noticed he had 1 clanger and 4 frees against. Hack.
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Sydney at Etihad - blue4life - 03-12-2016
(03-11-2016, 11:53 PM)laj link Wrote:Prefer Wood many times over than the other two. Held up our rucks nicely last year.
Casboult showed last year he was decent enough to fill a role. Kicked goals and rucked ok. Not a star at all in either role but decent and as a combined role he is valuable. marking around the ground is certainly a strength even if he's not as good in the tap ruck department as the others. Hence he got quite a bit of interest last year. Just not sure playing him full time forward as it seems to get bogged down and it saps his confidence. A run on the ball tends to change that in both roles.
I can't see Casboult as either a key forward or pinch hit ruckman who kicks a few goals in a top class finals team, and that's what we should be aiming at being.
As of today he's as good as anything else we've got, which isn't saying much at all.
We've accepted mediocrity for far too long.