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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - DJC - 12-28-2015
(12-27-2015, 11:17 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Did you see a contest Jack?.......the worlds best batsman on paper made runs vs the worlds worst attack that had to bowl part time spinners to make the over rate happen....
I enjoyed Pattinson bowling...pace with reverse swing...thats worth seeing...
Nathan Lyon ..Aus best offie?.....not for me...I'd have Ashley Mallet ahead of him as a bowler and Mallet was a gun gully fielder as well
Lyon is our most successful off spinner in terms of wickets taken but I wouldn't say he's our best. It's hard to compare players from different eras but I would rank Lyon 4th or 5th with Trumble, Mallett and Johnson ahead of him and Yardley fighting it out with him for 4th spot.
While it hasn't been much of a contest, there has been plenty of action and the home side doing well is always decent entertainment, particularly for young folk. Hopefully, the Windies will be a little more competitive today.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - cimm1979 - 12-28-2015
IMO Lyons last 18 months make him the best offie we've had.
Playing on decks that give nothing and bats like railway sleepers.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - Jack Burton - 12-28-2015
You're missing the point EB. When you do the 2 hour drive each way every week, it feels so good to walk away feeling happy!!!!
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - laj - 12-28-2015
Mallett is the best off-spinner I've seen in Australia, but Lyon has improved one helluva lot recentlu to the point of being not too much behind him.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - ElwoodBlues1 - 12-28-2015
(12-28-2015, 08:35 AM)laj link Wrote:Mallett is the best off-spinner I've seen in Australia, but Lyon has improved one helluva lot recentlu to the point of being not too much behind him.
I rated Mallet better because he played in a tougher era of cricket IMO....happy to agree that Lyon has improved though and I guess the stats back Lyon of recent times but bowling to Graeme Pollock and Barry Richards is a bit different than rolling the arm over vs Marlon Samuels and Darren Bravo....
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - crashlander - 12-29-2015
Now the 2nd test has been won and the Windies have shown some fight, there may be a little less trash talk. Then again, there may not.
I really did a number on Warner: he has barely made a run against the Windies. However, statistically he usually starts a season strongly and fizzles somewhat towards the end. That has certainly been the case this season.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - Mantis - 12-29-2015
(12-29-2015, 10:05 AM)crashlander link Wrote:Now the 2nd test has been won and the Windies have shown some fight, there may be a little less trash talk. Then again, there may not.
I really did a number on Warner: he has barely made a run against the Windies. However, statistically he usually starts a season strongly and fizzles somewhat towards the end. That has certainly been the case this season.
They did fight back better, but we missed some opportunities. Not confident they will do well up at Sydney. We will be missing Siddle with foot issues. If Warner finds any of his form come back, he will rip the Windies bowling line up a new one for sure.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - DJC - 12-29-2015
Pattinson, Hazlewood, Lyon, Marsh and another spinner in Sydney; probably O'Keefe?
I'd go with Maxwell but that's probably too left field. Besides, O'Keefe is a New South Welshman
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - Juddkreuzer - 12-29-2015
For the dead rubber I'd like to see Agar get his chance on home soil.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - Mantis - 12-30-2015
Interesting to hear the commentators talk about the "drop in" pitches and how they offer so much more for the batting sides than the bowlers. How they hold together much better over 5 days. I also remember the SCG and how it started to fall apart with huge cracks already into day 4. Therefore giving the side batting last on day 5 plenty of problems out in the middle. A real spinners track to say the least. How technology has changed the game over many years.