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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Gointocarlton - 02-14-2021
(02-14-2021, 04:33 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:A tale of two states.They've had 3.5 more travellers, we've had 4.1 times more cases, 14.6 times more deaths, FAIL.
Total travellers quarantined.
VIC. NSW
35,666. 124,893
Total COVID cases
VIC. NSW
20,456. 4,950
Total COVID deaths
VIC. NSW
820. 56
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 02-14-2021
At one stage during the height of one of the outbreaks wasn't Victoria the only state accepting International arrivals?
So I have to ask, what is a "Traveller", is that definition the same everywhere?
Secondly, what is "Quarantined", is the definition universally the same, is perhaps one location counting "self-isolation" the same same as hotel quarantine?
There is another issue with those figures, if they are true NSW is >300% better at preventing deaths from infections than anywhere else in the world! It's a glaring anomaly in the outcomes. On the numbers above Vic was 0.04, noting the global the average is 0.033, and NSW was 0.010. I appreciate they might be non-linear due to cases versus beds, and there are different reporting regimes by region, but generally get enough infections and you average close to the global average. Is it enough to ask why, I think so!
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - spf - 02-14-2021
The Stay Safe Directions (Victoria) (No 13) are revoked at 11:59:00 pm on 12 February 2021.
Stay safe period
For the purposes of these directions, the stay safe period is the period beginning
at 11:59:00 pm on 12 February 2021 and ending at 11:59:00 pm on 26 February 2021.
https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/202102/Stay%20Safe%20Directions%20%28Victoria%29%20%28No%2014%29%20-%2012%20February%202021_1.pdf
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - kruddler - 02-14-2021
(02-14-2021, 08:25 AM)spf link Wrote:The Stay Safe Directions (Victoria) (No 13) are revoked at 11:59:00 pm on 12 February 2021.Not sure what you are trying to point out that hasn't already been pointed out.
Stay safe period
For the purposes of these directions, the stay safe period is the period beginning
at 11:59:00 pm on 12 February 2021 and ending at 11:59:00 pm on 26 February 2021.
https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/202102/Stay%20Safe%20Directions%20%28Victoria%29%20%28No%2014%29%20-%2012%20February%202021_1.pdf
Old rules out.
New rules in...and are in until 26th....which is later than what we've been told.
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 02-14-2021
Hard to please, if decisions are made day to day the complaint is "We need certainty!"
btw., Perhaps it is just me, but do I detect a change in the latency of the new strain becoming detectable and infectious that isn't being reflected in figures or rules yet? As each month passes it seems 14 days is becoming less and less relevant, but it's a welded on number now!
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 02-14-2021
(02-14-2021, 08:50 AM)LP link Wrote:Hard to please, if decisions are made day to day the complaint is "We need certainty!"Yep I wouldnt be locked into the 14 day time frame anymore with the new strains, also the swab test can be insufficient and blood tests for antibodies are necessary. Lets just say you could get the odd patient or two sent back in the community after testing negative by swab but then a day later the blood test comes back positive for antibodies.
btw., Perhaps it is just me, but do I detect a change in the latency of the new strain becoming detectable and infectious that isn't being reflected in figures or rules yet? As each month passes it seems 14 days is becoming less and less relevant, but it's a welded on number now!
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - madbluboy - 02-14-2021
Now it's too early to say if he'll lift the lockdown.
Thought it was a 5 day circuit breaker?
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 02-15-2021
(02-14-2021, 11:45 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:Now it's too early to say if he'll lift the lockdown.I don't see full lockdown lifted, maybe some of the restrictions lifted but I think large numbers at events won't be seen till later in the year for example. We are heading into the cooler months and most experts are predicting more cases.
Thought it was a 5 day circuit breaker?
I have two children getting married this year and I don't expect either event to go ahead with normal numbers or without masks etc in fact as one is in Qld I don't expect it to go ahead at all..
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Baggers - 02-15-2021
The grandmother of a work colleague of Mrs Baggers had her Pfizer Covid shot on Saturday night and was found dead yesterday. She was elderly and her only allergy was penicillin. A pretty shattered family.
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Thryleon - 02-15-2021
(02-14-2021, 11:45 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:Now it's too early to say if he'll lift the lockdown.
Thought it was a 5 day circuit breaker?
They listed queen vic market as a hotspot yesterday. tier 1.