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Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 10-12-2020
(10-12-2020, 09:22 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:I don't think socialism is the goal in the US. More soviet style government with an oligarch owned politburo/technocracy ruling the people, whose votes would count for little.Let’s hope the voters have learned this lesson and they vote Trump out along with Moscow Mitch.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 10-12-2020
(10-12-2020, 09:43 PM)capcom link Wrote:Greatly depends upon how his 2 trillion spendathon on abandoning fossil fuels and green madness goes down with the electorate. He intends to lay down the rules to other aligned countries (including us) that we do more of the heavy lifting in regard to emissions. China gets a pass. He is a dangerous idiot. If he does happen to win the Presidency, the early signs of Parkinson's will see him off in short time.Let’s hope the fossil fuel industry continues to receive subsidies to make it competitive with cheaper alternative power options.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - cookie2 - 10-12-2020
(10-12-2020, 10:49 PM)Mav link Wrote:Let’s hope the voters have learned this lesson and they vote Trump out along with Moscow Mitch.
That may make some of them feel better short term but the underlying problem will remain. American democracy looks to be in its death throws.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - PaulP - 10-12-2020
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-29/fact-check-matt-canavan-fossil-fuel-industry-subsidies/12496310
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 10-12-2020
(10-12-2020, 11:10 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:That may make some of them feel better short term but the underlying problem will remain. American democracy looks to be in its death throws.Agreed. Massive changes would be required and some of them aren’t even currently possible. An example of the latter is campaign finance reform which has been blocked by the Supreme Court. And it’s hard to address voter disenfrancisement, suppression, and gerrymandering when the federal elections are run concurrently with state elections and the states have the responsibility for running them. The French are now on to their 5th Republic IIRC. When they’ve realised the system is broken, they’ve changed it. But it’s much harder to change the US Constitution and the partisan divide makes it impossible.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - ElwoodBlues1 - 10-13-2020
Boris Johnson been told to forge alliances with Biden and expect a huge democrats win.. Senate will be the problem for Biden..
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - cookie2 - 10-13-2020
(10-13-2020, 12:14 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Boris Johnson been told to forge alliances with Biden and expect a huge democrats win.. Senate will be the problem for Biden..
Interesting EB. I have also read that establishment figures working under Trump's instructions to expose people involved in Russiagate and other moves to oust him have been purposely dragging their chains fearing a Biden win. Maybe the Donald's days really are numbered?
BTW, be interesting to see what impact a Biden win would have on Brexit. The Dems are generally against it.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - ElwoodBlues1 - 10-13-2020
(10-13-2020, 12:26 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Interesting EB. I have also read that establishment figures working under Trump's instructions to expose people involved in Russiagate and other moves to oust him have been purposely dragging their chains fearing a Biden win. Maybe the Donald's days really are numbered?Cookie, They had all better hope Trump loses or there is going to be some sort of payback, FWIW I think Biden will win but it wont the landslide expected and like I said he might have difficulty implementing his polices due to Senate problems.
BTW, be interesting to see what impact a Biden win would have on Brexit. The Dems are generally against it.
I also wonder if Biden well see out his full term if he does win....
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Baggers - 10-13-2020
(10-12-2020, 11:12 PM)PaulP link Wrote:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-29/fact-check-matt-canavan-fossil-fuel-industry-subsidies/12496310
Thank the gods for the pure objectivity of the ABC... the antithesis of FOX News.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Baggers - 10-13-2020
The US has been brainwashed over decades to fear socialism, sad thing is most of them wouldn't know what the fck it is. Hey, this is a nation that thinks universal health care is communistic at worst, socialistic at best! Poor bastards.
The Democrats are so far from socialism it's almost farcical. The Democrats are probably reasonably aligned with our small l Liberals/moderates.