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Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - DJC - 08-16-2024
(08-16-2024, 04:21 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Its take the shorter, smarter option when its available and not just bomb long and hope.
I've always known it since i was a kid as my dad used to say it, but never known its origin.
I just assumed it had as much to do with looking at the old magnetic whiteboard. Instead of kicking it over the HF line deep into the goals, lower your eyes and see whats in front of you.
In reality, i think its more simple than that. When a player is looking to kick deep, they seem to tilt their head back so their eyes are higher and it gives them more of an ability to see longer.
Lowering them looks at whats in front of you more, rather than over them.
You'd only need to tilt your head back if you were intending to pass to someone in the upper levels.
There might be the odd occasion when a player "doesn't see" a teammate in a good position to mark a pass or receive a a handpass but in 99.9% of cases, the bloke with the ball will have seen every teammate and opponent in at least a 180 degree arc in front of him. The critical factor is whether the player's brain can evaluate the options and choose the most appropriate in the context of the player's ability to execute the kick, the target's ability to get to the ball's path, the location and ability of defenders, and the chances of a shot at goal or a long bomb succeeding.
Rather the "lower the eyes", it's "choose the right option".
Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - kruddler - 08-16-2024
(08-16-2024, 05:12 AM)DJC link Wrote:You'd only need to tilt your head back if you were intending to pass to someone in the upper levels.
There might be the odd occasion when a player "doesn't see" a teammate in a good position to mark a pass or receive a a handpass but in 99.9% of cases, the bloke with the ball will have seen every teammate and opponent in at least a 180 degree arc in front of him. The critical factor is whether the player's brain can evaluate the options and choose the most appropriate in the context of the player's ability to execute the kick, the target's ability to get to the ball's path, the location and ability of defenders, and the chances of a shot at goal or a long bomb succeeding.
Rather the "lower the eyes", it's "choose the right option".
I understand what you are saying, but its something that just kinda happens.
Next time you are watching a game of football, take note of it, people do it.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - LP - 08-16-2024
(08-16-2024, 02:00 AM)DJC date Wrote:What does it actually mean?The original context is a call by the coaches for players not to be fixated on the goal posts.
I would have thought that every players' eyes are on roughly the same plane :
If it means looking for a passing opportunity, then why not say that? It's just another meaningless phrase that has crept into the commentators' repertoire.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - Lods - 08-16-2024
When I used to kick high I actually looked down...tried to get under the 'ball'.
Otherwise it was straight ahead to see which way Jezza was leading.
Often I'd just ignore him and bang the paper stuffed stocking through the garage doors.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - Baggers - 08-16-2024
(08-16-2024, 02:00 AM)DJC link Wrote:What does it actually mean?
I would have thought that every players' eyes are on roughly the same plane :
If it means looking for a passing opportunity, then why not say that? It's just another meaningless phrase that has crept into the commentators' repertoire.
I don't get the fuss. It's just another footy cliche. It's often used in response to a side that when moving into the forward line and doing the usual thing of kicking long to a tall to no or little avail, rather 'lower your eyes' to assess better/other/shorter options. Don't waste the kick.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - Baggers - 08-16-2024
Rapt to see Moir get a gig. X factor.
In the circumstances I thought Vossy' media conference was good. What are you going to do and think in the situation we find ourselves? Bleat, moan and whinge about injuries -- players who aint there -- or do you search for the pony under all that horse sh*t?
Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - kruddler - 08-16-2024
Emergencies: Lemmey, Akuei, Wilson.
Everyone else is in.
Thats gotta be a slap in the face for Lemmey.
Rather go with no key forwards than him.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - cookie2 - 08-16-2024
(08-16-2024, 03:56 AM)DJC link Wrote:I like your optimism and logic EB.
A win over the Eagles with our injury-depleted team would be a pretty good indicator of development.
Call me crazy but I’m tipping us this week. ?
Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - Gointocarlton - 08-16-2024
(08-16-2024, 07:15 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Call me crazy but I’m tipping us this week. ?Technically our reserves side would have beat them if we were talking 6 weeks ago. The Weagles are junk, they sacked their coach FFS. Yet because of the spectacular slide we have managed, they are odds on with the bookies and we (me at least) are calling it season over. I guess we will know a fair bit more about our list come Sunday night. Dumb as dog shit leaving out Lemmey if you ask me thought.
Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-16-2024
(08-16-2024, 07:11 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Emergencies: Lemmey, Akuei, Wilson.I dont get it leaving Lemmey out, this was a chance to see where he is at and his form hasnt been terrible.
Everyone else is in.
Thats gotta be a slap in the face for Lemmey.
Rather go with no key forwards than him.