(06-09-2021, 04:48 AM)crashlander link Wrote:Oh, I understand the frustration. I have it myself. It is one of the reasons I don't post a lot immediately after a loss. The anger and frustration is not good for my health, so I am trying to minimize it. Pity our team is trying to maximize it.

I have come to the conclusion that our players have killed our coach. I cannot say it is anyone specific blame: there is so much to share around that no individual can possibly grab it all. But our coaching staff need to accept their share and do something about it. That doesn't appear to have happened.
For that matter, a few of our senior players need to take ownership of their failings and do something about it.

(06-08-2021, 10:20 PM)PaulP link Wrote:That is an inevitability, since I don't listen to anything he says, unless I come across it on these forums.

So, please explain to me the true meaning behind the great man's words.

(06-09-2021, 02:34 PM)northernblue link Wrote:G2C gives a reasonable summation above.
Search an old episode of “On the couch” with Sellars about 2010-13 vintage.
The bloke is many things including opinionated, but listen to the things he sees as non negotiable for a successful footy team, it’s hard to dismiss them.
I completely understand your dislike of the talking/ranting heads in the media, sometimes the ranting comes from passion, doesn’t mean it’s 100% correct, but what/who is ??

(06-09-2021, 09:38 PM)PaulP link Wrote:I did a quick search for that episode, found nothing. You don't mean Open Mike by any chance ? That's from 2013.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1g6nLGXTQc

At any rate. I have watched that in the past. It's fairly standard old man fare IMO, talking about the good old days and how they had standards which are not present in today's AFL players. That episode is ok, but it stands apart from his general Fox Media work because Sheahan still has a skerrick of journalistic integrity, and guides Maclure in a somewhat sensible direction.

He, like many of his ilk, makes a lot of assertions from the outside without really having much current insider knowledge. He's never worked in any offical capacity at the club (certainly not recently) has probably never even met most of the players and others he criticises, and is in my view not all that different from any other grumpy fan on the sidelines.

(06-10-2021, 12:35 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Actually Pauly, he and Andy Maher used to do that official Carlton weekly podcast a few years ago, Sellers got booted from it IIRC.

(06-10-2021, 12:46 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I should add, it doesn't really change my position, but clearly it's much better to have more knowledge than less.

(06-10-2021, 01:12 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Wasnt attempting to change your position, just saying he did "work" for the club but more importantly got booted as I think he constantly potted Bolts.

(06-10-2021, 11:30 AM)northernblue link Wrote:Yes, I think you’re correct about the “Open Mike” program.
You see a grumpy old man I see a bloke who’s been there and done it.
And the things he was banging on about then, he still bangs on about now, team, sacrifice for teammates etc.
They are timeless requirements, if you don’t have them you won’t have the ultimate success.
I don’t deny that tactically he’s playing a kick behind, but again you only have to kick more goals than the opposition more weeks than not and you then start looking to playing in September don’t you…