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2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - Printable Version +- Carlton Supporters Club (http://new.carltonsc.com) +-- Forum: Princes Park (http://new.carltonsc.com/forum-4.html) +--- Forum: Robert Heatley Stand (http://new.carltonsc.com/forum-14.html) +--- Thread: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane (/thread-3887.html) |
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - Gointocarlton - 07-08-2018 (07-08-2018, 03:07 AM)Micky0 link Wrote:Regardless of everything else, which of our players is flying the flag?I think the problem with Weiters and SPS is that they are both slow as treacle. I think they are both struggling with the speed at which the game is played and the speed of other players from other clubs. They both get caught alot, they need to develop some trick to get them out of trouble. We have far too many slow coaches. Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-08-2018 (07-08-2018, 06:30 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I think the problem with Weiters and SPS is that they are both slow as treacle. I think they are both struggling with the speed at which the game is played and the speed of other players from other clubs. They both get caught alot, they need to develop some trick to get them out of trouble. We have far too many slow coaches. Weitering is slow and mentally shot........he looks like a soldier suffering shell shock and when the big guns fire off he just wants to stay in the trench and pray for survival.... Jason Dunstall commented on Weitering and he cant work out whats gone wrong either... SPS just cant work hard enough for 100 minutes, talent is there but the desire is inconsistent... Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - LoveNavy - 07-08-2018 (07-08-2018, 06:30 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I think the problem with Weiters and SPS is that they are both slow as treacle. I think they are both struggling with the speed at which the game is played and the speed of other players from other clubs. They both get caught alot, they need to develop some trick to get them out of trouble. We have far too many slow coaches. Freudian slip :
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-08-2018 (07-08-2018, 07:48 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Malthouse did that and people accused him of playing favourites. Daisy was high profile, banged up, Mick's love child and his money was seen as being the Eddie money.....bit different..more controversial... I'm talking more players like Sicily who was still a raw unloved talent, Hartung, OBrien etc...moneyball types whose future with the Hawks was less certain....and maybe one fading star like Lewis as I said... Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - capcom - 07-08-2018 (07-08-2018, 07:48 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Malthouse did that and people accused him of playing favourites. He definitely wanted to follow his coach as well and McGuire knew it. Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - PaulP - 07-08-2018 (07-08-2018, 07:28 AM)deags link Wrote:I don't disagree with anything you say there. I think from the outside, what supporters see as lack of effort can be many things - genuine laziness on the players part, fatigue, bad attitude. Sometimes you may find players not running, not chasing - is this because of confusion about who does what, is it trying to not make a mistake by running to the wrong spot, is it sticking to the game plan which is based on zones, so if you abandon your part of the zone, you're in strife ? Some times there may be some behind the scenes personal things that we don't know about that throws things off. I don't know, I'm just thinking aloud, and maybe I'm talking through my ar$e. We've seen very good effort at times this season. Don't forget last night, we had Simmo as a late out, Marchy and Philips injured, Rowe has to go forward, so the backline (with no Doc, Rowe, Marchy, Plowman, Simmo, ACOS etc.) was a shemozzle. Also we were down on rotations from very early on etc. If you believe in simplistic dualities, then we either have talented types who don't put in 4 q efforts or gut busters who have little talent and awful skills. Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - RiverRat - 07-08-2018 (07-08-2018, 08:26 AM)Baggers link Wrote:I for one will not, for the first time in decades, be buying my membership before May/June next year... not unless something real, something concrete happens. No more fluff, no more excuses, no more scripted responses from the media dept., no more justifications, rationalisations or corporate cliches'/spin from Juddy and co.This year I reduced my membership to home games only and will need to see more competitiveness before increasing my commitment. The biggest problem (apart from injuries) is that we have been trying to play a team zone defence but some of the team are unable or unwilling to work hard enough to keep the net intact. Speed kills; lack of speed is more devastating; but unwillingness to use what speed you have is unforgivable. Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - Gointocarlton - 07-08-2018 (07-08-2018, 08:41 AM)RiverRat link Wrote:This year I reduced my membership to home games only and will need to see more competitiveness before increasing my commitment.Well said. Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - JonHenry - 07-08-2018 (07-08-2018, 09:14 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I'll give you one to explain...." we will be defined by pressure"............... Agree that pressure from last year is non existent. I wonder if it is Teague trying to implement a different game style with a team that doesn’t have the tools. Our list has been smashed by injury so it seems odd to open up our game plan Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - PaulP - 07-08-2018 (07-08-2018, 09:37 AM)JonHenry link Wrote:Agree that pressure from last year is non existent. Fair points IMO. |