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Re: JLT game 3 - kruddler - 03-12-2017
(03-12-2017, 02:54 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:We still have much work to do on our list IMO before we see significant ladder position improvement, although our performance in R1 may be cause to change that assessment (hopefully). Looking at our current "senior" players, I would think most of those will have gone and new stars will need to emerge, by whatever means, before we become a really competitive force.Whatever happens in Richmond in R1 we not be a good yard stick. They are as up and down as us.
Hopefully I'm proved wrong.
R2 maybe.
Re: JLT game 3 - LP - 03-12-2017
(03-12-2017, 03:08 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Whatever happens in Richmond in R1 we not be a good yard stick. They are as up and down as us.
R2 maybe.
Tend to agree about Nthmond.
They look like they have an One-In-All-In approach this season. It'll deliver them some big wins but they get some massive upset losses as well. But it'll be good for their fans, they be back to roaring one week and gobbing on coaches the next, it's the Nthmond way!
Re: JLT game 3 - DJC - 03-12-2017
It looks like we have a footballer in Pickett; good mark for his size, uses the ball well, puts pressure on his opponent and knows where the goals are.
Re: JLT game 3 - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-12-2017
(03-12-2017, 03:08 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Whatever happens in Richmond in R1 we not be a good yard stick. They are as up and down as us.
R2 maybe.
Richmond will start clear favourites vs us and would be expected to won by 5 goals plus IMO...I dont rate them at all and think they are rubbish
but with Hardwick under the pump I expect them to be up early in the season while I think we may take a few games to wind up and get going.
Always fancy our chances vs the Tigers though and IMO its a 50/50 games even though most of the public and media wont see it that way...
Re: JLT game 3 - Gointocarlton - 03-12-2017
(03-12-2017, 12:18 AM)LP link Wrote:Until the club experiences some success this stuff is never going away!All I am saying is lets draw a line in the sand and move on.
54% of the List is BBs
24% is MMs
15% is Rattens
7% in DPs
Majority of the list is BB's, will be swayed even more his way after this year. Thats enough for me to look fwd instead of back and not hijack every thread with same BS.
Re: JLT game 3 - cookie2 - 03-12-2017
(03-12-2017, 03:08 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Whatever happens in Richmond in R1 we not be a good yard stick. They are as up and down as us.
R2 maybe.
OK R2 it is! I will be looking very closely at HOW we compete, especially the senior guys, rather than necessarily the results, although wins would be very nice.
Re: JLT game 3 - PaulP - 03-12-2017
(03-11-2017, 10:35 PM)kruddler link Wrote:The bold part is right.
I wanted Mick to fix the culture and thought he had enough 'c*nt' about him to force change up and down the hierarchy at the club and enough runs on the board to have the respect required. This was on the back of the rookie coach favourite son who simply didn't have the experience. We were still in "we are carlton f*ck the rest" mode and we needed a culture shock.
I never blamed ratten for the culture.
Denis Pagan however...... >
As i said, i was a fan of Ratten. He did wonders from where he got the club. His only issue was inexperience in both coaching/tactics and inexperience in setting up a club for long term success (partially not his problem, but could have helped).
Ratten as our coach now would be better than Ratten as our coach back then.
Well, thank you for clarifying that. I can honestly say I never would have got that impression from reading your posts.
To those who are complaining about the occasional ex-coach dust ups that occur, I can appreciate that this may be a PITA, but please also understand that in terms of recent events, this is an issue which fiercely divides CFC supporters, and arouses strong passions and opinions for good reason.
Perhaps the mods may consider setting up an all encompassing Mick/Ratts thread, in some deep dark corner of the CSC site.
Re: JLT game 3 - Lods - 03-12-2017
(03-12-2017, 08:23 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Perhaps the mods may consider setting up an all encompassing Mick/Ratts thread, in some deep dark corner of the CSC site.
It's actually not been too bad lately...it still encroaches on some threads but for the most part people have moved on
If folks want to discuss it there are multiple threads in the "coaches box" section of the site.
Re: JLT game 3 - PaulP - 03-12-2017
(03-12-2017, 09:19 AM)Lods link Wrote:It's actually not been too bad lately...it still encroaches on some threads but for the most part people have moved on
If folks want to discuss it there are multiple threads in the "coaches box" section of the site.
Thanks Lods.
Re: JLT game 3 - PaulP - 03-12-2017
(03-11-2017, 10:01 AM)Lods link Wrote:Bolton has set himself a challenge with these comments....although he's probably left himself some wriggle room.
How strongly does he stick to that plan if our forward line doesn't develop over the season.
At what point does individual development give way to the need for team success.
Should Weitering go forward later in the year and be a success it would be difficult to move him back.
Just on this point - we also don't know how many games Bolts has in mind for Weeters to be "totally solidified as a defender". Personally I would think 3 seasons would be ideal. So around 60-70 games. Which by my reckoning means that Weeters should have 2017 and 18 predominantly as a defender. But I guess mileage may vary from player to player.
Weeters and Cripps are the only two A grade / potential A grade players on our list. They are absolutely the last players you want doing the "no more gaps" routine. I wonder if Gibbs career was compromised precisely because of this point.