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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - DJC - 02-08-2021

(02-07-2021, 11:32 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Especially when it comes from the head of a quarantine organisation.

I should have been clearer.  The person speaking on the wireless this morning is not involved in COVID quarantine.  She is a research scientist and an expert in quarantine and is the head of the international organisation of quarantine scientists.  I suspect that she knows just a tad more about quarantine than you and I Smile

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 02-10-2021

Two more cases of Covid via quarantine again, interesting part is the claim it was spread by use of a nebuliser.....nebuliser's and suction are banned in Victoria and I presume the rest of Australia because of transmission risks.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 02-10-2021

(02-10-2021, 01:28 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Two more cases of Covid via quarantine again, interesting part is the claim it was spread by use of a nebuliser.....nebuliser's and suction are banned in Victoria and I presume the rest of Australia because of transmission risks.
Yes, I wonder how the engineers deal with maintaining the required positive / negative pressures, it's obviously not as a simple as the media and people think.

I worry about the air-conditioning systems used in these big buildings / hotels, they are often have a common exchange of air connected to some roof space cooling tower, and Melbourne has long been a geographical hotspot for Legionnaire's. It's one of the big reasons I think the return to the office push is way too premature, there will be some building owner somewhere who is leaving the responsibility of getting things right up to someone else.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Gointocarlton - 02-10-2021

(02-10-2021, 01:28 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Two more cases of Covid via quarantine again, interesting part is the claim it was spread by use of a nebuliser.....nebuliser's and suction are banned in Victoria and I presume the rest of Australia because of transmission risks.
Dan said there was no reason for the person not to be using it in his presser.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 02-10-2021

(02-10-2021, 03:00 AM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:Dan said there was no reason for the person not to be using it in his presser.
Best keep in mind there may be some ambiguity in regards to the term "nebuliser", some may think of an asthma inhaler or the type of nebuliser used to administer medicines to infants, while others would be thinking about a device that is used in conjunction with a ventilator. I think the media are happy to play up on that difference in meaning / understanding.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 02-10-2021

(02-10-2021, 03:03 AM)LP link Wrote:Best keep in mind there may be some ambiguity in regards to the term "nebuliser", some may think of an asthma inhaler or the type of nebuliser used to administer medicines to infants, while others would be thinking about a device that is used in conjunction with a ventilator. I think the media are happy to play up on that difference in meaning / understanding.
Yep there is the personal variety and the ambulance variety used with intubation  .......I presume then its the personal variety used for asthma etc thats has caused the problem as like I said its been banned for use by Paramedics, probably cost lives too, I know the Para's were upset when it was banned as its a life saver.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Macca37 - 02-10-2021

Most chronic asthmatics have on hand a portable asthma pump. Air is pumped via a plastic tube to the nebuliser which is attached to a plastic face mask. The mixture of air and Ventolin is then breathed in.  The problem from a Covid scenario is that the face mask has two cutaway sections allowing the person to inhale and exhale.  I have seen the mixture exhaled to a distance of a metre or a little more .

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 02-11-2021

I have to wonder if the quietness of this thread is reality sinking in!

Has the early crow been eaten?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - madbluboy - 02-11-2021

Contact tracing failing again. Lockdown 3.0 here we come.
When Dan announces it he should announce his resignation as well.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 02-11-2021

(02-11-2021, 08:59 PM)madbluboy date Wrote:Contact tracing failing again. Lockdown 3.0 here we come.
When Dan announces it he should announce his resignation as well.
Is it failing, I'm not sure if the detections are because of it failing or because of it working?

I think what has failed are the calls that restrictions were over the top, and worse still the deniers circulating public dissention, if things get too loose it may well be the case the current restrictions weren't enough!

I really do not get the inability of the public to learn from the past, and in this case the memories and lessons aren't even a year old and they have evaporated from the public consciousness.