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Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Baggers - 10-10-2020
(10-10-2020, 06:15 AM)PaulP link Wrote:This isn't really the place to discuss this, but the Bible is a mass of contradictions, and you can find a quote to justify anything you want - indeed this is what has been happening for centuries. As I've said elsewhere, there's nothing inherently evil about religion, or science, or politics or anything else. Tyranny begins and ends in the heart, and if we keep practicing self exaltation and the externalisation of evil, we will never create a better society for all. What you see in mainstream Christianity today has little to do the original teachings of Jesus and his original followers. The Church married the empire in the 3rd or 4th century, and that was the beginning of the end. Although there are pockets here and there of more progressive thinkers.
Back on topic, one could argue that Chris is a little strident, but I agree 100% with what he says :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-7pZnvVzI8
Well, no argument here, Pauly. Thank you for introducing me to Chris Hedges.
I mentioned on this forum quite a while ago that I ran in the 1993 election and not as a member of Labor or Liberal and when I was interviewed by the ABC I commented, way back then, that voting for either of the major parties was making a decision as to whether I'd rather be hit over the head with a baseball bat or cricket bat - most of us have been voting for the lesser of two evils most of our adult lives. I survived a year in politics and pulled the pin myself as the party I'd joined, though well meaning, was filled with academics and intellectuals who actually didn't know how to make things happen in the real world... which was a pity, a huge pity.
Yes, Constantine, the consummate politician, is the real Founder of Christianity.
You're right, Pauly, this is not the place/forum for such chats but we sure are on the same page in many respects, however, I would add to your comment re it all starting and finishing with the heart that whilst humans are trained from birth to be fearful that we will continue to be easy to manipulate. Fear, to my way of thinking, is the opposite of love. As an interesting aside, recent studies of the conservative v progressive people's brains found that the 'fear centre' is far more active in the brain of conservatives!
Are you familiar with Robert Reich's work?
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 10-10-2020
Trump’s more into the Third Reich’s work ^-^
And yes, I know you’re talking about the former Labor Secretary. He’s a pretty reasonable voice.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 10-10-2020
(10-10-2020, 06:37 AM)Lods link Wrote:That's actually my whole concern because I think he's done and dusted this time barring some calamity.I agree a landslide result would be ideal. But it needs to be a landslide in the Congress too. Biden’s belief he can work across the aisle is naive. If McConnell remains in control of the Senate, he’ll just resort to total opposition again.
But if America thinks it can mend the divide quickly I suspect they have a long and difficult road ahead.
Biden's victory needs to be decisive.
A landslide in the Presidential election would at least avoid the nightmare scenarios Trump might exploit to steal the election. In the swing States controlled by the GOP legislatures and/or Governors, the fear is that 2 slates of College electors will be sent to Congress: 1 in favour of Biden if he wins the most votes & 1 in favour of Trump because, you know, electoral fraud. If they can prevent Biden having an undisputed majority of 270 Electoral College votes, it will fall to the House of Reps to make a decision. If the GOP Reps refuse to honour the election results, the House will vote on the new President. But here’s the shocker: the majority won’t make the decision. Instead, each State will have 1 vote. So Alaska will have as many votes as California. Presently, the Democrats have a big majority in the House but if a vote were conducted right now the Republicans would win the vote. Hopefully, a blue wave in the Congressional elections will change that and take this horror scenario off the table.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - dodge - 10-10-2020
It would be interesting to understand the motivations of people to enrol to vote. I suspect that there would have to be a huge injection of new 'enrolees' voting for Bidden in order for Trump to lose (and be in the right regions). Most of those already enrolled would be doing so because they support a party and vote those lines, so can't imagine much of a change.
Voting for change as a population is harder than status quo.
Polling is now unreliable, particularly if done the traditional way.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - madbluboy - 10-10-2020
If it wasn't for covid Trump would win easy.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 10-10-2020
(10-10-2020, 09:10 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:If it wasn't for covid Trump would win easy.If it wasn’t for Trump, covid wouldn’t be winning so easily.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - madbluboy - 10-10-2020
(10-10-2020, 09:20 AM)Mav link Wrote:If it wasn’t for Trump, covid wouldn’t be winning so easily.
Is Trump the President of Europe?
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - madbluboy - 10-10-2020
Or India?
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 10-10-2020
No, he’s just the President of a superpower with a death toll of 214,000 people. Fantastic effort!
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - madbluboy - 10-10-2020
(10-10-2020, 09:32 AM)Mav link Wrote:No, he’s just the President of a superpower with a death toll of 214,000 people. Fantastic effort!
That's like blaming Scomo for Victoria's death toll. Moronic.