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Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - kruddler - 07-09-2024
(07-09-2024, 07:36 AM)northernblue link Wrote:As far as Charlie heading or being sent down back to stem the flow, I’m not sure if he was able, Ol mate on fb has been saying all week that Charlie’s been managing an ankle for the last couple of weeks.
If true it may explain why he stayed forward and the lack of 2nd efforts.
Yep, its been suggested by a few that he isn't right.....and i've seen nothing to prove otherwise.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - Lods - 07-09-2024
(07-09-2024, 07:11 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Reading over in the Ruck Debate thread and elsewhere, I guess I have a different take on the game. I think GWS played the first quarter displaying the indifferent form of their last several weeks, then something happened at q time, and they played out of their skins for the next 2. I doubt any team would've stopped them in that time period. Whilst it's absolutely possible, personally I didn't notice any arrogance, slackness, cockiness, bath water, Kool Aid or anything else. GWS' numbers were up in several categories, and ours were down. They laid 26 tackles I50, which is an absurd number.
We'll see in the coming week what the real GWS looks like.
Here's my take.
We gave them a football lesson in the first quarter.
We went into the quarter time break with some players thinking this will be a 'walk in the park.'
You don't think that consciously...and it's something a coach would warn against
But it's there.
I remember feeling quite comfortable myself at quarter time...but there is always that little man in the head warning against complacency.
Because nothing in this game is ever as predictable as it seems.
So into the second quarter, a couple of goals, a couple of injuries and there was a momentum switch.
Good teams can wrestle those back quickly, for others it's like trying to turn around the 'Titanic'
That's especially so when you consider you're a superior side and it will just happen.
You have to make it happen.
So into half-time and we'd be thinking "OK, Third quarter coming up. Here is where we make our move."
But a few things go wrong early in that third quarter and things start to get a bit frantic.
We're still not attacking the contest with our usual intensity, a few players are down or well held, and it's being left to too few.
We also know some of our key movers are playing under injury duress.
There is still this feeling it will just happen, and though we try to make an effort, it's a half hearted one.
It's not the effort that's needed.
Into the last and suddenly there is a realisation that it's not just going to happen...and in fact we're so far behind the best we can do is make a bit of an effort to get the scores closer.
We go harder, they play to prevent the comeback and as a result we end up within a couple of goals at the end.
Are they the better side?
On the day they are... for two quarters and a bit (enough to get the win)...not so much for the other part of the game.
'Even' games are looked at when there's only a goal or two between sides for the entire game.
That was about as 'uneven' a game as there can be...so it's hard to draw a lot of conclusions as to the relative strengths of either side (other than I don't like to be in front early in a game.
)Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-09-2024
(07-09-2024, 07:36 AM)northernblue link Wrote:As far as Charlie heading or being sent down back to stem the flow, I’m not sure if he was able, Ol mate on fb has been saying all week that Charlie’s been managing an ankle for the last couple of weeks.Charlie was fumbling a lot of marks and you have to give credit to Buckley who is one of the better key defenders in the game.
If true it may explain why he stayed forward and the lack of 2nd efforts.
He has kicked 16 goals in 10 games against GWS and only five of those games have been wins so apart from the team finding the Giants hard work so has Charlie...
Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - madbluboy - 07-09-2024
Charlie got flogged by a first gamer the week prior.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-09-2024
Yep 7 possies and 3 marks vs the KP defender combo of those well known tyros in Miller and newbie Blight wasnt exactly Charlies finest effort for the season. Ok he might be sore or carrying an ankle etc but so are a lot of players at this time of the season and I just think Charlie has had a few cruisy weeks where he hasnt needed to operate in top gear and needs a good game this week where he gets a bit more ball even if he doesnt kick a big bag.
Dogs are down to their second string KP defenders this week with Jones and ODonnell out and with Lobb probably going to Harry its going to be Keath coming back after injury or Ryan Gardiner as a likely opponent for Charlie both he and Harry should be able to dine out.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - WASurfer - 07-09-2024
Charlie was well beaten by a relative newcomer against Richmond as well but managed to kick 2 goals....one very late in the game from just about the only contested mark he took. Last month or so he hasn't been holding his marks despite getting into position. If Jones is unavailable this week, he needs a lift....and would likely mean the Dogs might put Darcy back.