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Re: AFL Rd 3 2023 Post Game Prognostications Giants vs Carlton - Lods - 04-05-2023
I reckon Riewoldt's right.
He should be pinged every time for his actions....so now he's drawn attention to it, here's hoping
(04-05-2023, 01:01 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Yep, and not just him. I'm absolutely in favour of treating the umpires with respect, but I think the AFL needs to handle this issue a lot better.
(04-05-2023, 01:32 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Like Paul mentioned Coniglio is more respectful of the umpires than 90% of the fans in the grounds. When I was a kid I used to sit in the Carlton Social club where the umpires used to walk off.
So accepting that the AFL want to set a standard of respect, what's the solution.
If you don't agree with the current practice (which I agree is a little dodgy given the inconsistency of interpretation and application) what do you guys see as the answer.
Re: AFL Rd 3 2023 Post Game Prognostications Giants vs Carlton - madbluboy - 04-05-2023
I don't think there is a problem.
Re: AFL Rd 3 2023 Post Game Prognostications Giants vs Carlton - Mav - 04-05-2023
The problem is under control at the moment as players realise they may give up 50s or frees. Most of them self-censor. But if the AFL follows its usual problem-solving strategy, umpires will be told not to penalise and it’ll be open season again.
That’s what happened with hands in the back. While most players adjusted, there was a number of players who whinged mightily about being free-kicked when they kept on putting their hands in the back. So out goes that black and white rule and players were told they couldn’t use their hands to push an opponent out of the contest. Now we have a grey area over what is a push and what is holding one’s position. That reached peak ridiculousness in the case of 2 players running towards the ball where it was argued that the player running second was entitled to push his opponent in the back to protect the ball drop or hold his position. Now, only a fool takes front position as you just get pushed out of the marking contest.
Re: AFL Rd 3 2023 Post Game Prognostications Giants vs Carlton - pinot - 04-05-2023
Players just run the risk of giving away a free kick just like running the risk of giving away a free kick at bumping instead of tackling.
Re: AFL Rd 3 2023 Post Game Prognostications Giants vs Carlton - LP - 04-05-2023
(04-05-2023, 02:21 AM)madbluboy date Wrote:I don't think there is a problem.I think the way it was umpired was fine, I think the way most players are dealing with it is fine, there will always be the odd infringement.
Personally, if I was coach I'd be asking Coniglio why he spent moments wasting time when he could have been 5m or 10m down the ground setting up for the kick out! This in my opinion is why he remains a so so footballer.
Re: AFL Rd 3 2023 Post Game Prognostications Giants vs Carlton - Gointocarlton - 04-05-2023
(04-05-2023, 03:14 AM)LP link Wrote:I think the way it was umpired was fine, I think the way most players are dealing with it is fine, there will always be the odd infringement.His coach defended him in a presser saying that he is the most respectful player in the league and the infringement was wrong. So much for coaches not commenting on umpiring decisions.
Personally, if I was coach I'd be asking Coniglio why he spent moments wasting time when he could have been 5m or 10m down the ground setting up for the kick out! This in my opinion is why he remains a so so footballer.
Re: AFL Rd 3 2023 Post Game Prognostications Giants vs Carlton - LP - 04-05-2023
(04-05-2023, 03:27 AM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:His coach defended him in a presser saying that he is the most respectful player in the league and the infringement was wrong. So much for coaches not commenting on umpiring decisions.What a coach might say publicly is not necessarily what gets said privately, but I'll check on that with Ross the Boss!
Re: AFL Rd 3 2023 Post Game Prognostications Giants vs Carlton - madbluboy - 04-05-2023
Kingsley has said its complete rubbish that Coniglio was complaining all match.
Re: AFL Rd 3 2023 Post Game Prognostications Giants vs Carlton - Mav - 04-05-2023
Did Coniglio’s mum think he did the wrong thing?
Re: AFL Rd 3 2023 Post Game Prognostications Giants vs Carlton - Thryleon - 04-05-2023
Interesting.
Is it simply a matter of the finer points of things?
In COGS case, it sounds innocent enough, but he asked specifically "how is that not a free kick?" which is nothing untoward, but asking that in open play might have been a bridge too far for the umpire.
Perhaps he got his answer, and Harry was deemed to have not had full possession of the footy?
Anyway, it might be time to split this topic into its own to discuss dissent.