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Re: 2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn - Professer E - 07-23-2018
Casboult should be dealing with seagulls like Henderson without a second thought. One hundred games later and we're still waiting.
Re: 2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn - DJC - 07-23-2018
(07-23-2018, 12:10 PM)Professer E link Wrote:Casboult should be dealing with seagulls like Henderson without a second thought. One hundred games later and we're still waiting.
Just a bit tough Prof; Casboult was over the ball and Henderson lined him up. I'm not sure that Lockett would have dealt with that situation any better than Levi - although it would have been a brave man who chose to inflict pain on Lockett.
Re: 2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn - Professer E - 07-23-2018
What I'm saying is that Casboult should be the kind of player that blokes like Henderson steer clear of, instead Henderson (who isn't renowned for toughness) felt he could get away with a cheap shot. Casboult, at 100 plus kg should be putting the fear of god into opponents like that, instead he got lined up. In the AFl you're either the road train or roadkill.... And our lack of physicality has relegated us as the latter.
Re: 2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn - northernblue - 07-23-2018
(07-23-2018, 02:27 AM)Barbs link Wrote:We have to do something.
I accepted we wouldn’t be finalists this year, but over three years skills have gone backwards, our game plan has been proven time and time again to have gaping flaws but we stick with it, our injured list is huge, and players under perform each week with a lack of intensity.
Injuries don’t account for all of this (ok maybe the being injured bit)
There have to be some coaching changes in the post season.
Have the skills gone backwards or has the execution been poor ?
There is a difference.
Re: 2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn - northernblue - 07-23-2018
(07-23-2018, 03:57 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:from ESPN:
And yet the consensus of this place is that Mitchell gets it a lot, but does nothing with it, and if he does nothing with it why bother tagging ?
Move Ed you say... BB thought Smith was the more damaging of the two and needed to be clamped.
Re: 2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-23-2018
(07-23-2018, 02:00 PM)northernblue link Wrote:And yet the consensus of this place is that Mitchell gets it a lot, but does nothing with it, and if he does nothing with it why bother tagging ?
Move Ed you say... BB thought Smith was the more damaging of the two and needed to be clamped.
Mitchell had about 12 scoring involvements.......DE of 78% and 9 tackles
Coaches votes below
CARLTON v HAWTHORN
10 Tom Mitchell (HAW)
7 Luke Breust (HAW)
7 Paul Puopolo (HAW)
4 James Worpel (HAW)
1 Ricky Henderson (HAW)
Our coach is an idiot......
Re: 2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn - northernblue - 07-23-2018
(07-23-2018, 02:14 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Mitchell had about 12 scoring involvements.......DE of 78% and 9 tackles
Coaches votes below
CARLTON v HAWTHORN
10 Tom Mitchell (HAW)
7 Luke Breust (HAW)
7 Paul Puopolo (HAW)
4 James Worpel (HAW)
1 Ricky Henderson (HAW)
Our coach is an idiot......
That’s all 20/20 hindsight mate.
Make that call at 1/4 time and watch Smith rip us a new one.
Damned if you do and damned if you don’t...
Re: 2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-23-2018
(07-23-2018, 02:19 PM)northernblue link Wrote:That’s all 20/20 hindsight mate.
Make that call at 1/4 time and watch Smith rip us a new one.
Damned if you do and damned if you don’t...
Thats BS...Mitchell has been racking them up for weeks now and had 14 possies in the 1st quarter, OMeara was out and they had Worpel and ORourke as their
2nd and 3rd mids....dont need to be a rocket scientist to figure out who to tag either before the game or after Mitchell had racked up 14 possies in the 1st quarter.
Bolton is inept tactically and not the first time he has fecked up like this...Mitchell had 43 the week before at DE of 83%...how can you let a player like Mitchell run around
unopposed?
Here is Paul Roos opinion below... IMHO we dont have a clue in the coaches box and how our kids can progress I dont know...
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/carltons-handling-of-hawthorn-star-tom-mitchell-was-indefensible-says-paul-roos/news-story/84a201a1fd4273316f4f9176cf3d9fa1
Re: 2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn - Robblues - 07-23-2018
(07-23-2018, 01:54 PM)northernblue link Wrote:Have the skills gone backwards or has the execution been poor ?Isn't the execution part of the skill?
There is a difference.
Re: 2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn - Professer E - 07-23-2018
Needed analysis to determine how Smith gets his possessions. If he is a high hand ball received kind of player you clamp down on the earlier link in the chain - Mitchell. That's Barkers job, you know the master strategist in the box who clearly has mastered snakes and ladders, not chess.
Personally I would have clamped Mitchell and as I said pre-match, run LoB on Smith. Smith is a high impact player but can't impact if he hasn't got the pill. These moves are so obvious I start thinking about the old tanking chestnut.
I've mentioned this more than once - BB gets the heat but WTF do blokes like Barker contribute?