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Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - laj - 07-08-2018
(07-08-2018, 03:36 AM)Sexybronco link Wrote:Simplistic view IMO, there is obviously something we're not aware of be it attitude, work rate or injury. I reckon it's a combination of all 3 and hopefully more towards the injury and work rate rather than attitude. While we have kids developing in the ones they all appear to have the right attitude, let's hope he finds the missing ingeredient soon as he no doubt has the talent.
Hard to say. Not seeing alot of attitude on-field. If that's what they are asking of Harry then 90% of the side needs to be dropped.
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - LP - 07-08-2018
(07-08-2018, 03:36 AM)Sexybronco link Wrote:Simplistic view IMO, there is obviously something we're not aware of be it attitude, work rate or injury. I reckon it's a combination of all 3 and hopefully more towards the injury and work rate rather than attitude. While we have kids developing in the ones they all appear to have the right attitude, let's hope he finds the missing ingeredient soon as he no doubt has the talent.
Yep, I have to agree, an article which is more of an insight into Maher's desperation for some Carlton success than any real solution.
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - Barbs - 07-08-2018
(07-08-2018, 03:07 AM)Micky0 link Wrote:Malthouse was an arrogant old prick, it was a massive mistake to get him for a number of reasons but mainly that one!Bolton is a different personality and has a different style to Malthouse, but seems similarly fixated on an inflexible game plan that doesn't work.
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - LP - 07-08-2018
(07-08-2018, 04:18 AM)Barbs link Wrote:Bolton is a different personality and has a different style to Malthouse, but seems similarly fixated on an inflexible game plan that doesn't work.
The game plan would work if he brought the Dawks list with him!
I'm far more impressed by coaches that work with and improve what they are given, than coaches who have a formulaic approach and renovate the environment/list to suit an existing plan!
That was MM's problem, he had one plan and needed the whole place turned on it's head to make it work! Even then it would have been a plan that all the opponents knew well, nothing innovative!
Dimma's success is a great example, his list hasn't changed much, but he changed even if it was just by getting himself and the other dud coaches out of the player's way!
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - Barbs - 07-08-2018
(07-08-2018, 04:32 AM)LP link Wrote:The game plan would work if he brought the Dawks list with him!I'd be content if Bolton would work with the list he has. But he doesn't and his game plan isn't right for where our playing group is at. We need to get the basics right and develop some fighting spirit by playing tight, competitive one on one footy. As a young team we will still get beaten in the contests, but I'd rather see them go down fighting than running around confused, uninterested and playing soft football.
I'm far more impressed by coaches that work with and improve what they are given, than coaches who have a formulaic approach and renovate the environment/list to suit an existing plan!
That was MM's problem, he had one plan and needed the whole place turned on it's head to make it work! Even then it would have been a plan that all the opponents knew well, nothing innovative!
Dimma's success is a great example, his list hasn't changed much, but he changed even if it was just by getting himself and the other dud coaches out of the player's way!
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - LP - 07-08-2018
(07-08-2018, 04:49 AM)Barbs link Wrote:I'd be content if Bolton would work with the list he has. But he doesn't and his game plan isn't right for where our playing group is at. We need to get the basics right and develop some fighting spirit by playing tight, competitive one on one footy. As a young team we will still get beaten in the contests, but I'd rather see them go down fighting than running around confused, uninterested and playing soft football.
The only doubt I have, is this BB's game plan or is he under instruction from above?
If he is, what integrity does he have, if he is under instruction what integrity does our club have?
If he isn't under instruction, is that even worse?
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - cookie2 - 07-08-2018
(07-08-2018, 12:17 AM)PaulP link Wrote:It's hidden in the article on Marchy's heart condition for some reason :
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2018-07-07/full-postmatch-blues
Thanks Paul.
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - Professer E - 07-08-2018
There was a marking contest on the wing in which Chuck was awarded a free (it was indicated that way) then for some inexplicable reason the lions got the free. Everybody had stopped, but the Lions had the ball at deck level and the bloke cribbed and just ran off with it and the peanut umpiring just waved advantage...ended up a soft goal to Barrettvand that just about finished us off I thought.
Anybody recall us getting one of those "cribbed" run forward to advantage incidents this season?
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - JonHenry - 07-08-2018
(07-08-2018, 02:07 AM)LP link Wrote:That's a silly statement Flyboy which exposes your prejudice!
Marc Murphy
Carlton captain (2013–)
2× John Nicholls Medal (2011, 2017)
AFLCA Champion Player of the Year (2011)
All-Australian team (2011)
AFLPA Best First Year Player Award (2006)
AFL Rising Star nominee (2006)
Larke Medal (2005)
International rules series (2008)
There would be less than a a dozen or so players in the league with a better personal record!
Buddy, Burgoyne, Roughead, Ziebel, Pendlebury, Cotchin, Martin, Rance, Selwood, Dangerfield, Betts, Fyfe, Sanderlands, Josh Kennedy, Josh Kennedy, Luke Parker, Dan Hannebery, Sloane, Robbie Gray, Bontampelli, Matthew Boyd, Heath Shaw, Hodge, Jordan Lewis, Harry Taylor, Jack Riewoldt
Re: 2018 Rd 15: Post Game Pain: Carlton vs Brisbane - Micky0 - 07-08-2018
(07-08-2018, 04:32 AM)LP link Wrote:The game plan would work if he brought the Dawks list with him!Yes you wonder with the young talent we have, what would happen if they said just go for it, you guys set the agenda and follow it through.
I'm far more impressed by coaches that work with and improve what they are given, than coaches who have a formulaic approach and renovate the environment/list to suit an existing plan!
That was MM's problem, he had one plan and needed the whole place turned on it's head to make it work! Even then it would have been a plan that all the opponents knew well, nothing innovative!
Dimma's success is a great example, his list hasn't changed much, but he changed even if it was just by getting himself and the other dud coaches out of the player's way!
Too many cooks in the CFC coaching kitchen?