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Re: Smith's Crew in SA - JonHenry - 03-26-2018
(03-26-2018, 02:21 AM)LP link Wrote:All this stuff is a certain sign that the players involved are not up to the standard to allow them to compete.
I'm sure that is not the case for Smith's batting, but for his captaincy? Well, I think the recent events now answer that question!
I think the coach has a lot to answer for.
Smith was never this type. Nathan Lyon has also become very boorish recently.
David Warner was known by his team mates as the reverend up until 12-18 months ago because he shut his mouth and played cricket.
But the coach said we needed players with a more verbal approach and suddenly Matthew Wade replaces Nevill.
Warner is asked to re ignite the attack dog approach.
Lehman is a where these issues start. He and the fool that employed him and left overseeing a sport that is looking for $1B in TV rights.
Re: Smith's Crew in SA - JonHenry - 03-26-2018
(03-26-2018, 02:25 AM)LP link Wrote:JH, yesterday's innings was the perfect time for a leader to stand up. Perfect timing for a Simpson, Border or Chappelli moment!
Instead they went all Kim Hughes on us, and folded like a deck of cards!
Totally agree, but Shane Warne is the only bloke I have seen that never let public scandal of that size effect his performance.
Not sure what it has to do with setting our standards higher than the Saffers, Indians or Pakistani's
Re: Smith's Crew in SA - Bear - 03-26-2018
I’d love to know who came up with bright idea to send Bancroft and Smith into that press conference... and who knew what Smith was going to say in advance.
Re: Smith's Crew in SA - LP - 03-26-2018
(03-26-2018, 02:31 AM)JonHenry link Wrote:Totally agree, but Shane Warne is the only bloke I have seen that never let public scandal of that size effect his performance.
Not sure what it has to do with setting our standards higher than the Saffers, Indians or Pakistani's
I don't think the opposition has any relevance or that it's valid to make that comparison.
It's just an opportunity to stand up and lead, we needed someone to look like the general out there last night, and nobody really did!
Our lot might not beat SA again in the remainder of their careers, SA =have gotten into our blokes heads.
So should we cut and run with a completely new squad!
btw., I had always thought this should have been the CheatsFC best strategy. Come clean then wash yourself clean and move on, instead they have been hanging onto and dragging around their filth until it erodes away!
Re: Smith's Crew in SA - LP - 03-26-2018
(03-26-2018, 02:49 AM)Bear link Wrote:I’d love to know who came up with bright idea to send Bancroft and Smith into that press conference... and who knew what Smith was going to say in advance.
Hmm, based on events I'm not sure anyone thinks that deeply. FFS, we have a coach who's nickname is Boofhead!
Re: Smith's Crew in SA - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-26-2018
(03-26-2018, 02:28 AM)JonHenry link Wrote:I think the coach has a lot to answer for.
Smith was never this type. Nathan Lyon has also become very boorish recently.
David Warner was known by his team mates as the reverend up until 12-18 months ago because he shut his mouth and played cricket.
But the coach said we needed players with a more verbal approach and suddenly Matthew Wade replaces Nevill.
Warner is asked to re ignite the attack dog approach.
Lehman is a where these issues start. He and the fool that employed him and left overseeing a sport that is looking for $1B in TV rights.
Smith is dumb and a schoolboy captain, Warner is a better captain tactically but he is damaged goods everywhere he goes and always sucked into trouble.
He started the rot when he sooked after DeKock hit back at him and SA have been on top since....leading to the desperation we have seen and cheating saga.
Agree on Lehman......Langar will be the new coach and I'd expect Warner to retire from Test Cricket...Smith has stuffed up his IPL career too..
Wouldnt be surprised if a non event type like Shaun Marsh is made the new captain...WA boy, popular, experienced and most of all low profile in terms of creating problems...
Re: Smith's Crew in SA - LP - 03-26-2018
(03-26-2018, 03:02 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:...Smith has stuffed up his IPL career too..
No way, by IPL standards Smith's value just went through the roof, they admire that sort of stuff!
That is the cheating, not the confession!
The confession will make them think they can first put him to work for a win at all cost scenario, then take advantage of him!
Re: Smith's Crew in SA - JonHenry - 03-26-2018
(03-26-2018, 03:02 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Smith is dumb and a schoolboy captain, Warner is a better captain tactically but he is damaged goods everywhere he goes and always sucked into trouble.
He started the rot when he sooked after DeKock hit back at him and SA have been on top since....leading to the desperation we have seen and cheating saga.
Agree on Lehman......Langar will be the new coach and I'd expect Warner to retire from Test Cricket...Smith has stuffed up his IPL career too..
Wouldnt be surprised if a non event type like Shaun Marsh is made the new captain...WA boy, popular, experienced and most of all low profile in terms of creating problems...
Paine will be skipper.
Not sure about Langer as coach.
What the team really needs is some continual outside influence.
Not a team manager, but a couple of ex players, that travel with the squad. Change them regularly so they don't become part of the bubble.
They need to be the non smart ass type like a Katich, Gilchrist, Rogers that can look beyond the dressing room click and advise of any issues that may be foreseen.
I can't believe not one person saw these issues coming. CA should have been all over this stuff after the Rabada appeal.
There was always going to be a back lash.
Re: Smith's Crew in SA - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-26-2018
(03-26-2018, 03:05 AM)LP link Wrote:No way, by IPL standards Smith's value just went through the roof, they admire that sort of stuff!
That is the cheating, not the confession!
The confession will make them think they can first put him to work for a win at all cost scenario, then take advantage of him!
Think the Raji Royals have sacked him as skipper......agree the Indians dont mind a cheat but they have to be a good one who doesnt get caught....
Re: Smith's Crew in SA - flyboy77 - 03-26-2018
Leaving aside Captaincy - and the bloke will never Captain his country again, ditto Warner; what is the right length of suspension (from playing) for all involved?
3 months, 6 months, 1 year?