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Re: 2018 - What do you expect from the club? - mateinone - 12-05-2017
(12-04-2017, 05:56 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:No assumptions...Rockliff was offered a 4 year deal by Port at a touch over 2.8 mill, we beat Brisbane's initial offer which was 550k a season but were never going to beat the Port offer. The finals angle was part BS IMO, he went for the extra dough as the major factor, he was looking for 800k last time his manager shopped him around....
We have had a recent history of offering unders...Smith went for the extra money at Essendon and then pulled the better rehab facilities story out....Bombers also paid overs for Stringer to get him..
Players go for the big dollars unless its a no hoper club like North doing the offering and coached by an ego maniac like Brad Scott...then they think twice...
So EB you have those details as fact on what we offered and what Port offered?
You also have as fact that Essendon offered more than we did?
I am not saying this is impossible, I am saying I find it very unlikely that people on the forum here are privy to enough detail to determine what our final offers were.
Re: 2018 - What do you expect from the club? - ElwoodBlues1 - 12-05-2017
B Simpson Jones Marchbank
HB OShea Weitering Plowman
C Fisher Cripps Mullet
HF J.Silvagni C.Curnow SPS
F Wright Casboult Pickett
Foll: Kreuzer Kennedy
Rov Murphy
Int Garlett, Lang, Williamson, McKay
Re: 2018 - What do you expect from the club? - Inboltswetrust - 12-05-2017
(12-05-2017, 01:35 AM)mateinone link Wrote:So EB you have those details as fact on what we offered and what Port offered?
You also have as fact that Essendon offered more than we did?
I am not saying this is impossible, I am saying I find it very unlikely that people on the forum here are privy to enough detail to determine what our final offers were.
I totally agree MIO. You would never know what clubs offer. The media wouldn't neccessarily know either.
Re: 2018 - What do you expect from the club? - flyboy77 - 12-05-2017
From an old AFL post:
Quote:The 2km Time Trial
What should you run
5:30 - 6:00 min = Super Elite Athlete (Issac Smith/Mark Blicavs/Ed Curnow)
6:01 - 6:15 min = Elite AFL Player (Billy Hartung/Sam Gibson/Bradley Hill/Johnny Rayner/Patrick Ambrose/Tom Scully)
6:16 - 6:30 min = Slightly Better than average AFL Standard (Jamie Macmillan/Dan Hannebury/Ben McEvoy/Liam Shiels)
O'Brien ran 6.12 at the combine and will only get faster....elite already!
And a wicked left foot.
Granted there's more to footy than running but not a bad start for a kid who can play the gaME TOO!
Re: 2018 - What do you expect from the club? - ElwoodBlues1 - 12-05-2017
(12-05-2017, 01:35 AM)mateinone link Wrote:So EB you have those details as fact on what we offered and what Port offered?
You also have as fact that Essendon offered more than we did?
I am not saying this is impossible, I am saying I find it very unlikely that people on the forum here are privy to enough detail to determine what our final offers were.
Was published in the Herald Sun what Port offered Rockliff, also Damian Barrett quoted our offer as better than Brisbanes on trade radio but less than Port.
The Trade Whisperer aka two phones Tony also had Port offering more than us......
I dont have fact on the Essendon offer with Smith or Saad but they were throwing big some big money around ie Stringer....Smith was ours at one stage but then Essendon
entered the bidding war and it all changed with Smith saying Essendon had the better rehab facilities which I read as BS and joined the dots that they offered more in light of the fact we have been
offering unders generally and the Bombers had overpaid for Stringer.....common knowledge the Bombers offered way more than Geelong and Stringer who was set to go to Geelong initially was swayed by the bigger money and closer location to his kids...
We have a history of offering unders and the Bombers were on a spending spree given Dodoro was under pressure to land players and was out to refute the fact the Bombers were not a destination club and who were not trade friendly.
They didnt land those players because their massage tables were more comfy than ours or Worsfold is a super coach.....I think its fair to presume the money was a big factor and in Stringers case was fact....
Re: 2018 - What do you expect from the club? - LP - 12-05-2017
(12-05-2017, 01:53 AM)Inboltswetrust link Wrote:I totally agree MIO. You would never know what clubs offer. The media wouldn't necessarily know either.
There would be plenty in the media who would have the exact range of figures, because clubs and managers leak like sieves trying to get the better of each other.
Then players get on the turps and tell their mates, who get on the turps and tell their mates, etc., etc., etc..
Finally, most players have financial advisers, loans and lines of credit for investments, and those people get on the turps and leaks like sieves as well. It's just a matter of knowing who to ask and when. It's way too easy to get this info out there these days.
Re: 2018 - What do you expect from the club? - PaulP - 12-05-2017
On field success and playing finals is also important for many.
I reckon players are like home buyers. There's a few who are in it for the long haul, who want to get their hands dirty, and renovate from the ground up. But most want the hard work done for them - they want one of those "not a cent to spend" jobbies.
Re: 2018 - What do you expect from the club? - PaulP - 12-28-2017
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-12-28/stats-leaders-in-every-category-in-2017
2 of the 3 Carlton players on that list are Doch and Gibbs.
What do I expect from the club ? Less than I did 5 minutes ago.
Sigh
Re: 2018 - What do you expect from the club? - DJC - 12-28-2017
(12-28-2017, 03:25 AM)PaulP link Wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-12-28/stats-leaders-in-every-category-in-2017
2 of the 3 Carlton players on that list are Doch and Gibbs.
What do I expect from the club ? Less than I did 5 minutes ago.
Sigh
All that means is that other players have the opportunity to step up ...
Re: 2018 - What do you expect from the club? - PaulP - 12-28-2017
(12-28-2017, 08:04 AM)DJC link Wrote:All that means is that other players have the opportunity to step up ...
No doubt, and I hope they grab those opportunities with both hands. We need so much stepping up we could open a Bunnings.