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Re: 2017 Round 3 :Post Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon - bratblue - 04-12-2017

(04-11-2017, 11:47 PM)DJC link Wrote:I just want to reflect on the consummate skill with which Weitering took Hurley out of a marking contest in the first quarter. Weitering gave Hurley a light bump with his shoulder that was just enough to put Hurley on the back foot an unable to move forward quickly. Weitering then pushed and met the ball for a relatively easy mark.  Unfortunately, Weitering had a touch of the Casboults and missed what should have been an easy goal.

The ease with which 18 year old Weitering disposed of a highly rated, very experienced key defender brought tears of joy to my eyes  Smile

We're going to have some fun watching these green shoots over the next ten or so years. Smile


Re: 2017 Round 3 :Post Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon - LP - 04-12-2017

(04-11-2017, 11:38 AM)BluePhantom link Wrote:I think the closer truth is we are not a bad as we are painted out to be! Wink

What it shows is just how little those "Expert Commentators" know about the kids on the fringe of AFL clubs like GWS.

Basically it appears those Foxtel and Hun specialists must be forming opinions based on no observations, and I am betting they either haven't seen them or have seen very little of them, and assume not seeing a player regularly means they are no good!

FWIW, I think this ignorance through invisibility even extends to official activities like TAC CUP Dev Squad selections. In recent years I've watched a number of kids who I rate the equal to Weiters not getting a run at TAC Cup level, often because of nepotism!


Re: 2017 Round 3 :Post Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon - cookie2 - 04-12-2017

There are clearly many agendas and also some huuge egos at play within the footy community. Balanced commentary and fair and even judgments are early casualties as a result.


Re: 2017 Round 3 :Post Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon - jeza - 04-12-2017

(04-11-2017, 11:47 PM)DJC link Wrote:I just want to reflect on the consummate skill with which Weitering took Hurley out of a marking contest in the first quarter. Weitering gave Hurley a light bump with his shoulder that was just enough to put Hurley on the back foot an unable to move forward quickly. Weitering then pushed and met the ball for a relatively easy mark.  Unfortunately, Weitering had a touch of the Casboults and missed what should have been an easy goal.

The ease with which 18 year old Weitering disposed of a highly rated, very experienced key defender brought tears of joy to my eyes  Smile

Great post. Casboult would have just ran at the ball and given the defender a chance to punch it. Love Weitering - he's a class above.


Re: 2017 Round 3 :Post Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon - LoveNavy - 04-12-2017

(04-11-2017, 01:16 PM)jeza link Wrote:Plowman special mention: 18 possessions in torrential rain @ 94% efficiency.

That is ridiculous.

Plowman's efficiency is becoming consistent as well as close to perfect. In fact the back six are building on what was a good 2016. Imagine, we've got young Byrne to come back mid season. That will be very interesting times for selectors.

Loving watching our journey unfold.

Go new Blues


Re: 2017 Round 3 :Post Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon - Gointocarlton - 04-12-2017

(04-11-2017, 02:33 PM)Koutz link Wrote:What I saw on the weekend was a backline that will make us a formidable side in the next few years.

I have not been this excited for a very long time!

When you see the potential in Marchbank, Plowman, Macreadie, Williamson, Docherty and maybe Weitering as a back six, you finally can see some light at the end of the tunnel.

Silvagni is doing a great job so far with his list management. Let's hope it can continue and these kids keep developing!
x 1,000,000. Spot on.


Re: 2017 Round 3 :Post Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon - kruddler - 04-12-2017

(04-12-2017, 09:21 AM)LoveNavy link Wrote:Plowman's efficiency is becoming consistent as well as close to perfect. In fact the back six are building on what was a good 2016. Imagine, we've got young Byrne to come back mid season. That will be very interesting times for selectors.

Loving watching our journey unfold.

Go new Blues

Don't get carried away with disposal efficiency of backmen. Half of their disposals are switching the play under no pressure.
They almost always outdo midfielders, who are under more pressure with their disposals, and it shows in the %'s.
However, i'd take a few midfielders skills over backmen despite what the %'s say. Wink


Re: 2017 Round 3 :Post Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon - LoveNavy - 04-12-2017

(04-12-2017, 09:37 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Don't get carried away with disposal efficiency of backmen. Half of their disposals are switching the play under no pressure.
They almost always outdo midfielders, who are under more pressure with their disposals, and it shows in the %'s.
However, i'd take a few midfielders skills over backmen despite what the %'s say. Wink

Oh come on Kruddler... That there optimism bubble has been a long time in the making ^-^ .
94% in those conditions is good whichever way you slice it. Now let's see his teammates take up the challenge.....



Re: 2017 Round 3 :Post Game Thread - Carlton vs Essendon - DJC - 04-12-2017

Disposal efficiency may be impacted by the role of the player and defenders do have opportunities to dispose of the ball under little or no pressure.  Even Docherty, who turns the ball over quite often, rates in the mid to high 70s.  However, defenders are often forced to hack the ball out of danger and those kicks are 50-50 propositions.

94% is outstanding efficiency on a dry day and in any position.