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Re: 2017 Rd 1 Post Game Analysis: Carlton vs Richmond - LoveNavy - 03-24-2017
With the kids I really want to see more pressure. SPS laid an equal team high of 7, but half our team laid 14 tackles between - that is just unacceptable in modern footy and that has nothing to do with skill, and everything to do with mindset.
Tackling is a definite area we need to improve.
Note: 2 doggies players each laid 14 tackles tonight.
Re: 2017 Rd 1 Post Game Analysis: Carlton vs Richmond - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-24-2017
(03-24-2017, 01:12 PM)RiverRat link Wrote:Apologies if someone has already raised this subject but I don't have time to read all of the previous posts. Can anyone tell me what the game plan was for at least trying to minimise Martin's impact - other than the comment on the banner.
He was on his own so often that it gave the impression we were hoping he would run out of puff from the amount of ground he covered when collecting and using so much uncontested ball.
At many stoppages play in the second half, our midfielders (Gibbs in particular) looked directly at Martin and then chose to man-up on another opponent whilst directing a younger teammate (e.g. Petrevski-Seton, Macreadie) towards Martin or just leaving him on his own.
BTW - Ed Curnow should be banned from ever passing the ball into the corridor by foot; his efforts to kicking short to a teammate have turnover written all over them. If he has to kick the ball, he should kick long and towards the boundary line.
Said it previously that Martin scares our blokes and no one wanted to mix it with him....last time I saw that with a player was with Barry Hall who had our blokes jumping out of his road as he crashed through feeble tackles.
Hope Bolton addresses this issue and demands his senior players take responsibility, we need to recruit a couple of tougher players who can provide what we lack and at least stand up when needed.
Its not about fighting or whacking blokes like Martin but showing that he can be tackled and hurt by our blokes..watched the game with some Essendon supporting family friends and they thought it was hilarious how Martin had so much time to do what he liked and how our blokes avoided him...just embarrassing IMO..
Re: 2017 Rd 1 Post Game Analysis: Carlton vs Richmond - townsendcalling - 03-24-2017
I found it interesting today how full of praise 'non Carlton' workmates etc. were of our performance last night, especially our youngsters. Is it pity (no one has sympathy for Carlton!!) or is it genuine? Maybe things look different through other eyes!!
Re: 2017 Rd 1 Post Game Analysis: Carlton vs Richmond - Thryleon - 03-24-2017
(03-24-2017, 01:24 PM)townsendcalling link Wrote:I found it interesting today how full of praise 'non Carlton' workmates etc. were of our performance last night, especially our youngsters. Is it pity (no one has sympathy for Carlton!!) or is it genuine? Maybe things look different through other eyes!!
We played an honest match and the Tigers were flat track bullies last night.
Some of our kids were good, others not so good, but a good side would have won by 10 goals against us and I thought we did well to keep it to 40 odd points for most of the game.
Re: 2017 Rd 1 Post Game Analysis: Carlton vs Richmond - mateinone - 03-24-2017
I am surprised by the Jack doubters.
For a kid who was absolutely bottom age last year I see a hell of a lot to like. I stick to my early call that I think he will be the best kid (eventually) from that draft, including Weiters who is going to be a champ (and a lot sooner than Jack).
MBB If Dale Thomas was 19 and played the game Jack played there is no chance I would be calling for his head.
I think he will be our number 1 forward by the end of the year, I reckon he might end up a big strong unit like his old man.
Re: 2017 Rd 1 Post Game Analysis: Carlton vs Richmond - bmaurizio - 03-24-2017
(03-24-2017, 01:13 PM)LoveNavy link Wrote:With the kids I really want to see more pressure. SPS laid an equal team high of 7, but half our team laid 14 tackles between - that is just unacceptable in modern footy and that has nothing to do with skill, and everything to do with mindset.
Tackling is a definite area we need to improve.
Note: 2 doggies players each laid 14 tackles tonight.
Agree Martin should Not have been allowed to run amock, worst incident was when he rag dolled Casboult a much bigger and heavier opponent.
I'm not advocating vindictive or spiteful play but he should have been sat on his bum during that incident. Not good of team moral.
Re: 2017 Rd 1 Post Game Analysis: Carlton vs Richmond - Amers - 03-24-2017
My main response to that game was 1 of disappointment..... at the lack of intensity.
I wanted to see us have a red hot crack at it, it looked more like we were only running on 3 cylinders. The most damning stat was 88 tackles to 67, Richmond's way. That just simply isn't good enough. It doesn't require talent, or experience to have a crack, just get in there and have a go.
I would loved to have heard a question along these lines directed at Bolton in the post game presser!
For me, this is the 1st thing that needs to be addressed. We will never win a game against anyone with the lack of intensity that we showed against the Tigers, it wouldn't matter how much talent we put out there.
And we did have some Talent!
It was nice to have the captain back, Murph is a very classy player, with ball in hand.
SPS is going to be a joy to watch! Only small glimpses last night really, but looking forward to much more!
Pickett is also going to be exciting to watch. I'm really hoping that he can build a tank and be able to play through the midfield and not just up forward.
Marchbank and Plowman will make a great tandem team for many years.
Macreadie didn't do a lot, But I saw a couple of nice things, he didn't look overawed.
I didn't see Smedts do anything outstanding, but I thought he went ok.
Weitering up forward was no surprise, 3 goals was a good return, he is just a quality player, who will always be hard to shut down for a whole game.
SOS is just a pure footballer, great to watch, I wish we had more like him! Maybe we will soon enough!
I was disappointed with Charlie Curnow, he didn't hit the scoreboard as a forward, and lacked possessions for a mid. Not entirely sure what his role was, but he somehow needs to find ways to get more involved. 5 tackles was better than many of his team mates though!
Rowe was good, I felt sorry for him when I think it was Caddy kicked that grubber goal on him.
Kreuzer had a great game, his 2nd efforts are just amazing! And 1 of his chases down the wing put many of our other mids to shame!!
Re: 2017 Rd 1 Post Game Analysis: Carlton vs Richmond - Amers - 03-24-2017
(03-24-2017, 01:13 PM)LoveNavy link Wrote:With the kids I really want to see more pressure. SPS laid an equal team high of 7, but half our team laid 14 tackles between - that is just unacceptable in modern footy and that has nothing to do with skill, and everything to do with mindset.
Tackling is a definite area we need to improve.
Note: 2 doggies players each laid 14 tackles tonight.
Hear, hear!!
Re: 2017 Rd 1 Post Game Analysis: Carlton vs Richmond - Debster - 03-24-2017
Murphy was a bit underdone and got caught & brutally gang-tackled a few times..I reckon that inflated the Tigers tackle stats in my view.
We also lacked a 'road block' at CHB to stop and repel the constant Richmond leads into that area... yet another strategic failure of Boltons. It's unforgivable that Martin did not have a direct opponent for most of the night. Our midfield is just unaccountable and too light-weight for the modern game. You need a few wrecking-ball types !
Re: 2017 Rd 1 Post Game Analysis: Carlton vs Richmond - BlueAvenger - 03-24-2017
(03-23-2017, 01:16 PM)LoveNavy link Wrote:PositivesGreat post, agreed
Sammo soaked up a mountain of pressure and looked good before a bit of a fade.
Pickett flashes of great. Can't wait till he builds up his tank.
McCreadie was good, reads it well. Some muscle and he'll hold his own.
Smedts was good in patches. Looked like he moved well. Expect his improvement to increase quickly.
Marchbank and Weiters ????????
Crippa got through unscathed. Will be better for the run.
Sam Rowe and Kruez were solid. Looked to give 100%
Daisy kicked longer and offered more in general. Maybe that ankle's better.
Plowman was solid. He'll continue to improve.
As others noted, (quite) a few of our seniors didn't perform as we hoped. Obviously we can't expect to win under those conditions.
In all, the youngsters had a great hit out. Their learning now begins.