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Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb - Brettie - 02-28-2016
All those players missing today....absolutely none of them will solve our forward line issues....and boy, are those issues massive.
Brilliant seeing the ground full, but geez, for a game so well publicised throughout the week, the place was woefully under-prepared with water, records, food items and worst of all - membership cards all running out of supplies well before half time. Not bloody good enough. The place is dilapidated and not a hope in hell of ever hosting a another H&A game.
Weitering is an absolute lock for round 1 and beyond.....and although not prominent today, I like what Charlie Curnow brings to the table. McKay clearly needs time, but with virtually no forward line to speak of, I'm thinking he'd almost be a certainty for round 1 also.
So many players stunk it up that it'd probably be unfair to mention them, but fook me Phillips is a spud. Geez I hope we don't suffer too many injuries this year, cos our quality of depth is paper thin.
To use a Bolton-ism, I hope we have a 'reset' come round 1....
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb - Gointocarlton - 02-28-2016
(02-28-2016, 10:28 AM)crashlander link Wrote:Unfortunately, it shows what we have become used to at Etihad and the MCG. It would take millions to make Ikon Park back into a true AFL venue; millions we do not have. As much as I love the place, I cannot see the ground being used more unless there is a LOT of money spent on it.$100M to be exact according to Trigg at todays lunch.
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb - LordLucifer - 02-28-2016
(02-28-2016, 10:58 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Rubbish, it's all between the ears.....
Fixing that takes time.
If you start off with a player who is sub-standard in talent, then it doesn't matter how much you get inside their head, they only have a very limited upside.
Work with a player of immense talent but is young and inexperienced, teach them well from the get-go and you will be rewarded handsomely.
We had a number of players on the list last year who were liabilities hence the reason why we won the flag. We have started to address that fact with some strategic list management which will take some time to blossom.
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb - ItsOurTime - 02-28-2016
(02-28-2016, 10:31 AM)crashlander link Wrote:Mind you, I was not over impressed by the umpiring. They got 3 to every one we managed and some of those 50 m penalties were mysteries to everyone involved.
It was a flashback to the Geesh today. Why are they paying 50m penalties for some very technical stuff, like seagulls waiting to swoop on a hot chip, in a fecking preseason game? Just chill, tell the player to ease up and get on with it.
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb - Juddkreuzer - 02-28-2016
Umpiring aside, we fielded possibly our weakest squad so the score line is irrelevant. Here are some observations.
Weitering is a General already. Composure, skill and maturity beyond his years.
SOSGSOS. Wow!! Still raw but this kid can play and exceeded my expectations by a long way.
Harry Mackay...will become a damaging target.
Charlie Curnow...Love this kid already. Needs to work on his skills under duress but that will come. Reminds me of Waite with a bigger upside.
Cunningham.. Disappointed after a promising pre-season. But not a write off by a long shot.
Tuohy...Great effort
Boeky and Clem...showed glimpses of an improved level of development.
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb - bignic - 02-28-2016
Can security please escort Liam Jones out of the ground and never let him back in again,
Please!!
I'll wait till the real stuff starts before I comment further.
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb - Amers - 02-28-2016
(02-28-2016, 09:03 AM)crazyjoedevolamk11 link Wrote:Of the Blues or the Hawks?
That's a good question, i would never question Weitering's professionalism, but if he ever has any doubts about Carlton's professionalism, then his loyalty may be tested !!
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb - blue4life - 02-28-2016
(02-28-2016, 10:58 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Rubbish, it's all between the ears.....
Fixing that takes time.
If that's true then one day Tutt will be up to Selwood standard through sheer hard work and fixing problems "between the ears", and Liam Jones will morph into Johnno Brown.
It's that sort of wishful thinking which does us no favours at all and only perpetuates the situation we find ourselves in.
By the looks of Weitering and young Curnow we may have finally got the draft somewhere near right, but that doesn't alter the fact that 5 of our recent first round picks are no longer at the club in Lucas, Yarran, Bootsma, Watson and Menzel.
There's a heavy price to pay for that sort of incompetence.
If we'd only got two of them right, Talia for Lucas and Isaac Smith for Watson for example, we would be far better placed, but it's been a total wipe out and our second and third rounders haven't been any better.
There are only so many players like Tuohy who you can fluke as rookies, when you screw the National Draft to the extent that we have you're left with second raters and rejects, and no amount of work "between the ears" will make good players out of them.
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb - PaulP - 02-28-2016
One issue to think about is whether Isaac Smith and Talia would've become half the players they are now had they been in our system ?
Is it bad selection, bad development, or both ?
Re: NAB Challenge: Carlton vs. Essendon Sunday 28th Feb - Professer E - 02-28-2016
Both.