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Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game) - Thryleon - 05-03-2015
(05-02-2015, 01:08 PM)blue4life link Wrote:There are players from that draft still playing top football, Burgoyne played in a premiership side last year and Thompson won Adelaide's B&F and has been AA, we would have killed for Drew Petrie or Ted Richards at any time in the last 10 years.I reckon that's where our rebuild fell over. Too much reliance on too few.
The only current ten year players we have drafted are Simmo and Walks, the rest have disappeared without a trace.
We might have finally got one right with Cripps but I'm not convinced that trading pick 7 for Jacksch was good value, time will tell.
These days you need a good team with depth, not a few stars with a cast of triers.
St Kilda are the last side I can think of that went the latter and ironically were beaten to a flag by two teams that chose the former.
Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game) - blue4life - 05-03-2015
(05-03-2015, 04:33 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:I reckon that's where our rebuild fell over. Too much reliance on too few.
Too many failed draft picks is the simple answer.
Since we got back in the draft in 2004 there isn't a single player on our list except Armfield taken outside of the first round apart from a couple in the last few years who have played the odd game and may or may not be on the list in 2017.
That's 10 years of misses, it can't be all bad luck.
Add to that first round misses like Lucas, Watson and Bootsma and there is our problem in a nut shell.
It wouldn't matter who the coach was, we don't have the cattle.
Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game) - shadesy - 05-04-2015
Club has been very very quiet over the weekend.
No player has come out and accepted responsibility?
Any players tweeted?
Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game) - laj - 05-04-2015
(05-03-2015, 08:33 AM)blue4life link Wrote:Too many failed draft picks is the simple answer.
Since we got back in the draft in 2004 there isn't a single player on our list except Armfield taken outside of the first round apart from a couple in the last few years who have played the odd game and may or may not be on the list in 2017.
That's 10 years of misses, it can't be all bad luck.
Add to that first round misses like Lucas, Watson and Bootsma and there is our problem in a nut shell.
It wouldn't matter who the coach was, we don't have the cattle.
A coach, if done the right way, will make those players play better. Much of this group have played finals.
Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game) - blue4life - 05-04-2015
(05-04-2015, 06:23 AM)laj link Wrote:A coach, if done the right way, will make those players play better. Much of this group have played finals.
As John Kennedy once said, you can boil them, fry them, curry them or bake them but they're still sausages.
Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game) - PassIt2Carrots - 05-04-2015
Watson and Bootsma were late firdt rounders in compromised drafts, not many great players went after them. Lucas clearly had the talent but not the drive. Hawthorn missed two early first rounders, didn't seem to hold them back.
Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game) - Gags10 - 05-04-2015
OMG we took Lucas pick 9Daniel Talia went pick 12 AA CHB Crows…and we had such a strong spine…..don't think so…!!!
One of Carlton's all time howlers in the last 5 years drafting
Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game) - madbluboy - 05-04-2015
On the Couch last night just highlighted what I've said all year. We don't run and we don't apply pressure. Some footage of Marc Murphy not even trying half way through the first quarter was shameful.
Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game) - Lods - 05-04-2015
(05-04-2015, 10:19 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:On the Couch last night just highlighted what I've said all year. We don't run and we don't apply pressure. Some footage of Marc Murphy not even trying half way through the first quarter was shameful.
"Witches Hats" Brown called us....Fucking "witches hats" >
Problem is it was hard to argue against
Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game) - ItsOurTime - 05-04-2015
(05-04-2015, 10:27 PM)Lods link Wrote:"Witches Hats" Brown called us....screwing "witches hats" >
Problem is it was hard to argue against
You should have seen it at the ground. Disgraceful