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Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL! - PassIt2Carrots - 05-28-2015
(05-28-2015, 01:45 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Maybe, maybe not.
I seem to recall similar was said about the time Ratten departed regarding anything else being something better and wasting one more year of his contract wouldnt be worth it, as it might set us back further.
Look how that turned out.
We can never know what would have occurred. we can likewise not know for sure where our future was going under Malthouse.
Mate don't know how many times it needs to be said, the two situations are entirely different. With Ratts we were mid table, with Malthouse things were spiraling out of control.
Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL! - Thryleon - 05-28-2015
(05-28-2015, 03:57 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:Mate don't know how many times it needs to be said, the two situations are entirely different. With Ratts we were mid table, with Malthouse things were spiraling out of control.
It doesnt matter how different the situations are.
You stated you don't like hypotheticals, and I find it amusing that you believe that in this case you can hypothesize differently and dismiss all situations for all parties.
We could just as easily have gone backwards in 2013 and 14 under Ratten as we could have propelled into top 4.
The point is, we can't know.
Id argue we may have ended up in a very similar position, but again we cannot know for sure.
Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL! - PassIt2Carrots - 05-28-2015
(05-28-2015, 05:11 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:It doesnt matter how different the situations are.
You stated you don't like hypotheticals, and I find it amusing that you believe that in this case you can hypothesize differently and dismiss all situations for all parties.
We could just as easily have gone backwards in 2013 and 14 under Ratten as we could have propelled into top 4.
The point is, we can't know.
Id argue we may have ended up in a very similar position, but again we cannot know for sure.
Huh? Do you deliberately go off on different tangents in an attempt to confuse, or are you confused?
You are comparing the Ratten and Malthouse situations when they are poles apart. Look at the wins and losses. I was not hypothesizing on which way the two situations could go, I was saying the two simply don't compare.
Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL! - Amers - 05-28-2015
(05-28-2015, 03:26 AM)Dominator_7 link Wrote:Simple solution from 2016
New coach comes in.
Should put Simmo as Captain Bob Murphy style. (Simmo is the heart and soul of our side and leads by example as seen Friday night)
Coach tells Murph he wants him to just concentrate of playing footy and getting back to the type of form that made him AA.
Groom Cripps and Doc as the next Captain/Vice Captain combo.
I could perhaps debate the Cripps and Doc part, although it's far from a terrible idea.
The rest is spot on.
Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL! - Thryleon - 05-28-2015
(05-28-2015, 05:33 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:Huh? Do you deliberately go off on different tangents in an attempt to confuse, or are you confused?
You are comparing the Ratten and Malthouse situations when they are poles apart. Look at the wins and losses. I was not hypothesizing on which way the two situations could go, I was saying the two simply don't compare.
(05-28-2015, 03:57 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:Mate don't know how many times it needs to be said, the two situations are entirely different. With Ratts we were mid table, with Malthouse things were spiraling out of control.
Yep, Im confused.
You are saying the situations can't be compared, and then you are comparing them.
Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL! - PassIt2Carrots - 05-28-2015
(05-28-2015, 06:50 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Yep, Im confused.
You are saying the situations can't be compared, and then you are comparing them.
You are seriously taking the pi55 now. Can't be compared in likeness ie they don't compare, you know, like a figure of speech. Not can't be compared. Not rocket science mate and I seem to be saying that a lot to you of late.
Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL! - Thryleon - 05-28-2015
(05-28-2015, 06:54 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:You are seriously taking the pi55 now. Can't be compared in likeness ie they don't compare, you know, like a figure of speech. Not can't be compared. Not rocket science mate and I seem to be saying that a lot to you of late.
Maybe, but either way we can only speculate on what would have happened which was LODS point about Ratten's tenure. The second it's over the chapter is closed, and that's all there is.
Have you figured that bit out yet?
That's what my point was.
Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL! - PassIt2Carrots - 05-28-2015
You've completely lost me.
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Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL! - DJC - 07-21-2015
Barker thinks Murphy is doing a pretty good job as skipper:
Quote:Barker also praised midfielder and skipper Marc Murphy who will notch his 200-game milestone against the Hawks.
"Marc Murphy is an outstanding Carlton person. I can do nothing but congratulate him on such an outstanding achievement," Barker said.
"His leadership over the last six or seven weeks, since I've taken over, has been outstanding. His want to drive this place to a better standard has been nothing but first class."
I was surprised that no-one commented on Murphy's leadership after the Richmond game when he was 'miked-up' before the game. I was very impressed with the way he went about his work. It was apparent that he has the respect of the players and is very much a natural leader.