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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - flyboy77 - 12-11-2015
(12-11-2015, 01:19 AM)Amers link Wrote:Yep, records falling left right and center, by 2 batsmen who don't have that great a record says more about how poor the West Indies are than how good these batsmen are.
Yet they did what they did where others - Warner et al, Smith fell cheaply.
Voges averages close to 70 - some respect for that!!!
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - LP - 12-11-2015
(12-11-2015, 03:44 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Yet they did what they did where others - Warner et al, Smith fell cheaply.
Voges averages close to 70 - some respect for that!!!
I'm not bagging Voges and Marsh but it's a fair point Amers makes.
Making runs against this West Indian team should almost be devalued 2:1, at one stage they were going at 6 runs an over in a test match!
Warner and Smith have made significant amounts of runs against some of the world's top rated bowlers in a variety of conditions.
Voges and Marsh have some way to go before they can claim the same level of kudos, as batsmen they might consider themselves lucky that they got a gig against this team when perhaps Bancroft or Klinger might have started to cement a spot in similar circumstances!
Burns won't be happy after getting a start!
The same can be said for our bowlers, but in some degree the bowlers risk is inverted. Not taking wickets against this lot might end your career, but at the same time taking a bag probably isn't worth much!
It seems playing the West Indies is all risk with very little reward.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - crashlander - 12-11-2015
You look at the West Indies team and you see a team with no self belief and no confidence. They don't believe they can win. The result, therefore, tends to be clear.
They remind me of what we were playing like under Malthouse early this year: worried about making a mistake and going through the motions.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - Mantis - 12-11-2015
Just slightly off topic, but I watched the Cricket Show yesterday and was amazed. Ian Healy had a junior teenage cricket player practice some wicket keeping, while Healy hit cricket balls at him. The way he instructed the junior with catching skills was great to watch. Teaching the junior how to move his feet and what side of the body to take the ball depending on where the stumps were placed. His instructions were very precise and attention to detail. He spoke clearly and explained exactly why skills are practiced in a certain way. He would make an excellent keeping coach. Even if Slater had a spin on fielding with some advice himself, Ian would explain a more preferred technique and why it is a better drill. He is a clever man and was a great cricket player. Especially as a keeper with batting ability to add.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - ElwoodBlues1 - 12-11-2015
(12-11-2015, 01:19 AM)cimm1979 link Wrote:This might sound like a crazy idea, but I think CA should consider buying or setting up a cricket academy in the Windies.
They have a rich history and the Oz public has always gone to watch them in droves.
The revenue lost in crowds and TV audiences dropping off would be costing a lot more.
I dont think it is a crazy idea and IMO the richer test playing nations like India, England and us should contribute to a Windies academy...
Unlike the old days less Windies players are involved in county cricket hence they dont get to hone their techniques and it affects their ability to perform at test level.
Its just all T20 park cricket for them and the lucrative T20 comps around the world...they need incentive to train and play the longer form of the game....maybe some county cricket scholarships
would help as well as a modern academy staffed by past greats....
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - PaulP - 12-12-2015
The Calypso kids become the Collapso kids.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - Mantis - 12-12-2015
Back when Viv Richards, Clive Lloyd, Desmond Haynes, Gordon Greenidge, Malcolm Holding, Joel Garner were playing the West Indies were the best cricket nation in the world at any form of the game. Now look look very green and ordinary playing cricket. That doesn't worry me though.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - Amers - 12-13-2015
(12-11-2015, 03:44 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Yet they did what they did where others - Warner et al, Smith fell cheaply.
Voges averages close to 70 - some respect for that!!!
Yeah, and what was it before his innings in Tasmania?!!
But seriously, 70 is a good average, I wasn't aware of that, he is still pretty young in his Test career and for me at least hadn't proven a whole lot before his last inning.
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - Amers - 12-13-2015
(12-11-2015, 09:47 AM)Mantis link Wrote:Just slightly off topic, but I watched the Cricket Show yesterday and was amazed. Ian Healy had a junior teenage cricket player practice some wicket keeping, while Healy hit cricket balls at him. The way he instructed the junior with catching skills was great to watch. Teaching the junior how to move his feet and what side of the body to take the ball depending on where the stumps were placed. His instructions were very precise and attention to detail. He spoke clearly and explained exactly why skills are practiced in a certain way. He would make an excellent keeping coach. Even if Slater had a spin on fielding with some advice himself, Ian would explain a more preferred technique and why it is a better drill. He is a clever man and was a great cricket player. Especially as a keeper with batting ability to add.
Yeah, enjoyed watching that....
Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ?? - ElwoodBlues1 - 12-27-2015
The ACB should send this Windies team home and give the gate money back to the poor patrons who have been hoodwinked into parting with their hard earned to watch
the garbage that these con artists are dishing out....6/91 chasing another 500 plus score...
They must be on the take ie Paki cricketers, no team can be this woeful and so non competitive....they swagger like the old Windies team, wear the same amount of bling as the old Windies but thats where the similarity ends ...