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Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - crashlander - 07-06-2024
(07-06-2024, 12:39 PM)LP link Wrote:It was Tom Green with 33, not Toby.Toby Greene: 12 possessions for 2 goals. Better than Charlie, but not why we lost.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - laj - 07-06-2024
That was a weird game. Started and finished well, nothing in the middle.
Reminded me of some the of the games we played in 1982, which, well happened for interesting reasons. Knew people in the club then. Not in this day and age though.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - laj - 07-06-2024
(07-06-2024, 12:40 PM)LordLucifer link Wrote:Weak as piss Carlton !!
After dominating the first and setting up a match-winning 39-point lead, their big egos got in the way for the rest of the game until the absolute death when they tried to pinch it.
Zac Williams, hang your head in shame, that play on from a mark just inside the F50 (near to 3/4 time) was simply unacceptable and it directly cost us a goal on the turnover.
And you Charlie Curnow, how dare you masquerade as a league footballer when your second efforts are either non-existent or more importantly, simply lazy. It's all well & good to demand silver service delivery but unless you respect the extremely hard work your team-mates upfield put in to get it to you by fighting hard to keep in our F50, then you are a passenger and a fraud !!
I could see Tom De Koning trailing Briggs at CHB and then he let him run all the way down to near full forward and take an uncontested mark, thankfully he missed his shot at goal. However, that was absolutely pathetic defence especially when at the last moment, whilst still jogging forward, De Koning pointed further downfield expecting a smaller team-mate to man up on Briggs. Effing not good enough Tom, you too can hang your head in shame.
Tonight's effort is why I am not convinced we are the premiership threat many people have been saying we are. Far to often we have tried to lairise with dinky kicks and lookaway handballs etc and they have worked, tonight they didn't and look what happened, they made us pay.
The Giants mids were desperate and quelled our midfield drive which in turn, gave them first use far to often, they thoughly deserved their win - hats off !!
If this doesn't set off an alarm bell at Princes Park then I don't know what will.
Seen us play much worse than that and win a flag. Weren't going to win every game. No side does hence no-one has ever gone through undefeated, Comes down to next week and how we rebound.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - pinot - 07-06-2024
Some of our key players were rubbish today
Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - LygonStreetLimbo - 07-06-2024
They curtailed Walsh’s influence. That was huge for them. They looked pretty good, didn’t they!… why have they been so mediocre this year?
Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - LordLucifer - 07-06-2024
(07-06-2024, 12:45 PM)pinot link Wrote:Some of our key players were rubbish today
Only some ??
We had so many onlookers it wasn't funny.
Where was the desperation, where was the pressure on the ball carrier and more importantly, where was the man on man defence ??
Good teams don't lose when they get to over 6-goals up, they also don't get to be 6-goals down after that either.
We have been terrific for most of the season but tonight's half-hearted effort should not be tolerated or get sugarcoated over, this was as limp as I've seen for some years.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - Baggers - 07-06-2024
Well that's exactly what you get when you get ahead of yourselves and egos reign supreme. Inflated egos, once challenged, fold... and equates to poor work rate = someone else will do it. Heard a few tones of arrogance in Weiters words coupla weeks back when interviewed by Whately. Not good from a leader.
About fourteen goals to two in the middle of the game. Pathetic. Embarrassing. Once hunted, we sh*t the bed.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - LoveNavy - 07-06-2024
I'm not surprised by the result at all. Giants were due to find form sooner or later. Bummer that it wasn't later.
They have a man mountain ruckman and a side stacked with talent, youth, and lighting speed.
We've come off a hard yet successful run. That probably showed a bit with our flat patches. Most pleasingly, we showed perseverance. Despite being so convincingly beaten across the ground.
Probably an inevitable loss. There is lots to learn from the game, including how we pace ourselves across a long season. Our early long injury list likely taking it's toll as it messes with selection, rotation, and added burden on the fit players.
Sometimes it's the little things that tip the balance. Like the travel, travel disruptions, and selection changes. FWIW I would have Cotters return via 2's, but I'm not in the know. Credit to Giants. They have some super youngsters on the rise (some of whom would look superb in navy ?)
Rest and recover. Ready for the next challenge. Avoid complacency. Stay present and strike hard when the opportunity arises.
Go Blues
Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - Thryleon - 07-06-2024
I want to point something out.
Last time we played gws we had Lewis Young, and pittonet in, carroll was the sub, durdin was in as was hewett.
Cerra, cincotta, saad and gov were all out.
We had a lot of players well down on their output which is why this happened and it wasn't all bad news.
It's just not good enough to look down the stats sheet and see so many of our key players so down on output. Maybe we attempted to slide the magnets around to lessen our single points of failure but we may have highlighted them instead.
Next week needs to be a big improvement. I think we might want to rethink the risk reward of this one ruck vs two ruck business. It isn't a zero sum equation where one ruck vs two definitely means less run, depends on what we do with the rest but it is a lot more limiting when we can't change up rucks or change match ups down back.
Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-06-2024
Briggs 40 hitouts to TDK 19.....TDK 11 Clearances to Briggs 10....given TDK's role in making us a winning team thats a win for GWS.
Cripps with 33 possies did his job, problem was Tom Green had 33 for GWS so it evens out again when we needed a clear win but the other GWS mids had better games than ours ie Ward, Cogs, Daniels all having around 30 possies. Hewett would have been handy on Ward.
Walsh with 22 possies after being tagged was a win for GWS also...
Tackles inside 50....GWS 26- Carlton 4.......so not much pressure from our blokes to create goals or prevent them running the ball out.
Centre Clearances were equal and Stoppages just in our favour but given this is our one wood territory I reckon GWS would take those stats and call it a win for them..
They won the contested possessions by 17 and thumped us in the uncontested possessions...
Our average marks per game is around 90 we had 57, they average around 90 too and had 92...
Overall just outworked, out run and our key players were either held to breaking even or beaten, probably did well to keep the game to a 2 goal loss...