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Re: VFL 2024 Rd 13 Carlton vs Southport at Carlton - blueianh - 06-22-2024
Lost by 2 goals - more precisely 1 goal 6 which probably more accurately reflects the extent to which Southport outclassed us once they kicked into gear. Reeled us in and were all over us. In terms of seniors next week Binns kept grinding, not his best game but might have been our best player once Wilson went off. Wilson was turning it on until injured, hope it is nothing too bad. Pitto did OK but nothing to force his way into the firsts, Marchbank started looking like the player we know he is, Carroll was good early but faded out. Cuningham played the second half and showed his class but probably needs more runs in the 2s and to show his body can stand up, Motlop showed a bit but not enough for mine to earn a firsts gig. Young and Durdin didn't disgrace themselves but are backup only at this stage. Cooper Lord showed a bit, seems neat and honest, laid more tackles than any senior or rookie listed player but my initial thought is he might be a bit vanilla for the higher level. For seniors next week unless the match committee want to go 2 rucks I can't see anyone forcing their way in. If they want to demote Fantasia and/or Durdin Binns Carroll and Motlop could all be considered.
Re: VFL 2024 Rd 13 Carlton vs Southport at Carlton - crashlander - 06-22-2024
The lack of intensity and the poor disposal of our VFL team really stand out. We were beaten in yet another close finish, when, if a couple of guys stood up, the result could have been different. The guys really lack spark and don't have any mental toughness when things get hot.
Re: VFL 2024 Rd 13 Carlton vs Southport at Carlton - Baggers - 06-22-2024
Our intensity and defensive game was on the money... early. Of the AFL listen players, Billy W., Motlop, Marchbank and Carroll were busy... early. For mine, and being harsh, the only blokes who put their hands up were Billy (hope nothing serious with his injury) and maybe Motlop (for Durdin as sub, maybe). Can't see Marchbank squeezing out any of our present back seven. Good to see Cooper L making his debut - workman like, but no doubt needs more time to show his wares.
Once our intensity dropped away, along came the overgrown Sardines.
Re: VFL 2024 Rd 13 Carlton vs Southport at Carlton - PaulP - 06-22-2024
The gap between our VFL and AFL looks significant. This is definitely an area that requires attention. The top performing and flag winning AFL teams also tend to do well in the VFL. I doubt Voss will have too many selection headaches when he reviews that.
As an aside, why didn't the VFL boys have the same Carlton Respects outfit as their AFL counterparts ? They only got the socks, at least as far as I could tell.
Re: VFL 2024 Rd 13 Carlton vs Southport at Carlton - DJC - 06-22-2024
(06-22-2024, 06:36 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Our intensity and defensive game was on the money... early. Of the AFL listen players, Billy W., Motlop, Marchbank and Carroll were busy... early. For mine, and being harsh, the only blokes who put their hands up were Billy (hope nothing serious with his injury) and maybe Motlop (for Durdin as sub, maybe). Can't see Marchbank squeezing out any of our present back seven. Good to see Cooper L making his debut - workman like, but no doubt needs more time to show his wares.
Once our intensity dropped away, along came the overgrown Sardines.
I thought Binns worked a lot harder than Motlop, and Cuners showed why we've persevered with him. None of them really have a chance of displacing anyone from the AFL team.
A disappointing result given the AFL-listed players in our team.
Re: VFL 2024 Rd 13 Carlton vs Southport at Carlton - Thryleon - 06-22-2024
(06-22-2024, 06:43 AM)DJC link Wrote:I thought Binns worked a lot harder than Motlop, and Cuners showed why we've persevered with him. None of them really have a chance of displacing anyone from the AFL team.Its all about luck at this point. I'm glad all of them are starting to get going. Need a bit of depth and despite not wanting any of the current mob out odds are that an injury can happen any time so the more getting fit the better.
A disappointing result given the AFL-listed players in our team.
Re: VFL 2024 Rd 13 Carlton vs Southport at Carlton - kruddler - 06-22-2024
(06-22-2024, 06:43 AM)DJC link Wrote:I thought Binns worked a lot harder than Motlop, and Cuners showed why we've persevered with him. None of them really have a chance of displacing anyone from the AFL team.
A disappointing result given the AFL-listed players in our team.
From our 23 last night, i'd have Durdin and Fantasia as player #22 and #23.
Cunners and Motlop in to replace them is an improvement IMO.
Re: VFL 2024 Rd 13 Carlton vs Southport at Carlton - blueianh - 06-23-2024
(06-22-2024, 08:18 AM)kruddler link Wrote:From our 23 last night, i'd have Durdin and Fantasia as player #22 and #23.Fit and in form I have no doubt. But ongoing fragility is a problem with Cunners and Mots isn't yet putting in enough and consistent enough effort for mine. True the supply isn't great and Mots seems the type to lift at the higher level but I think he has to earn the promotion. Durds had little chance to show his wares on Friday albeit that one of his efforts in particular was ordinary and Fantasia probably put in his best effort though still not enough to hold his spot once others are back, I think Cunners needs more time in the 2s and whilst you could promote Mots on potential I am not sure it is anything but shuffling deckchairs on the Titanic.
Cunners and Motlop in to replace them is an improvement IMO.
Re: VFL 2024 Rd 13 Carlton vs Southport at Carlton - kruddler - 06-23-2024
(06-23-2024, 12:04 AM)blueianh link Wrote:Fit and in form I have no doubt. But ongoing fragility is a problem with Cunners and Mots isn't yet putting in enough and consistent enough effort for mine. True the supply isn't great and Mots seems the type to lift at the higher level but I think he has to earn the promotion. Durds had little chance to show his wares on Friday albeit that one of his efforts in particular was ordinary and Fantasia probably put in his best effort though still not enough to hold his spot once others are back, I think Cunners needs more time in the 2s and whilst you could promote Mots on potential I am not sure it is anything but shuffling deckchairs on the Titanic.
As you say, if Cunners and Mots were fit an in form you'd go for it.
I think at their current levels, they would still offer more.
Re: VFL 2024 Rd 13 Carlton vs Southport at Carlton - DJC - 06-23-2024
(06-22-2024, 08:18 AM)kruddler link Wrote:From our 23 last night, i'd have Durdin and Fantasia as player #22 and #23.
Cunners and Motlop in to replace them is an improvement IMO.
Yes, if Cuners can get to match fitness without suffering another injury and Motlop starts running with intent rather than just running.