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Re: AFL Rd 4 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle in Adelaide - Mantis - 04-01-2024
(04-01-2024, 12:47 PM)pinot link Wrote:Next four games - three will be against teams in the top four. If we are deserving of top two finish then next month will shape that.
Freo
Adelaide
GWS
Geelong
No easy games in this group. Walsh back soon will help us. We need all the help we can get. Considering no Doc, and no Jack. Plus limited ruck stocks. Our pressure will be put to the test. If that holds up we could win more of these games than we expect. Bring on the mental focus Voss. Bring that on.
Re: AFL Rd 4 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle in Adelaide - tonyo - 04-01-2024
(04-01-2024, 03:03 PM)Mantis date Wrote:No easy games in this group. Walsh back soon will help us. We need all the help we can get. Considering no Doc, and no Jack. Plus limited ruck stocks. Our pressure will be put to the test. If that holds up we could win more of these games than we expect. Bring on the mental focus Voss. Bring that on.We are flying under everyone's radar at the moment. The external pressure will be much more obvious if we beat Freo this week.....
Re: AFL Rd 4 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle in Adelaide - DJC - 04-01-2024
(03-31-2024, 09:01 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:yeah but who are they? Amiss is the only one that looks promising. Taberner is a good size but he's a bit of a dud, and treacy is a relative unknown quantity.
Remember height is one thing the ability to perform at the level is another.
Treacy, Taberner, Jackson and Amiss have kicked 20 goals out of Freo's 38 goals so far this season. That's a potent group of tall forwards whichever way you look at it and they will stretch our defence regardless of who comes in for Marchy.
I can't see us bringing Pitto back (Freo rucks Jackson and Treacy) or swapping a tall defender for a small/medium defender. Cincotta has put his hand up, and he would probably be a good match up for Frederick, but I think Williams and Boyd have done enough to stay in the 22.
If we're going to win this one, and I think we will, it will be our team defence rather than individual match ups that will get the job done.
Re: AFL Rd 4 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle in Adelaide - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-02-2024
(04-01-2024, 11:36 PM)DJC link Wrote:Treacy, Taberner, Jackson and Amiss have kicked 20 goals out of Freo's 38 goals so far this season. That's a potent group of tall forwards whichever way you look at it and they will stretch our defence regardless of who comes in for Marchy.I like Amiss but the rest of their tall forwards are duds imho, in the past its been the Freo small forwards led by Schultz now at Collingwood who have worried us. Id be manning up Serong with Hewett and having a defensive half forward(Cottrell) on Young as well as making sure Ryan has an opponent to worry about and isnt allowed to play loose and rack up the intercepts.
I can't see us bringing Pitto back (Freo rucks Jackson and Treacy) or swapping a tall defender for a small/medium defender. Cincotta has put his hand up, and he would probably be a good match up for Frederick, but I think Williams and Boyd have done enough to stay in the 22.
If we're going to win this one, and I think we will, it will be our team defence rather than individual match ups that will get the job done.
If it was at Freo it might be more of fight to win but I think on neutral ground id expect to win by 3-5 goals.
Interesting to hear Fyfe speak about his new role and how he is there to do the grunt work, provide blocks etc and not be the main man anymore. Id be expecting him to work Cripps over and play a negative game on him and our other bigger mids like Kennedy....
Re: AFL Rd 4 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle in Adelaide - Lods - 04-02-2024
(04-01-2024, 11:36 PM)DJC link Wrote:I can't see us bringing Pitto back (Freo rucks Jackson and Treacy) or swapping a tall defender for a small/medium defender. Cincotta has put his hand up, and he would probably be a good match up for Frederick, but I think Williams and Boyd have done enough to stay in the 22.
Never say never.
Pittonet was very good in the VFL at the weekend.
There's been some suggestions about TDK playing back.
Could be an interesting selection meeting.
Re: AFL Rd 4 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle in Adelaide - kruddler - 04-02-2024
(04-02-2024, 07:14 AM)Lods link Wrote:Never say never.
Pittonet was very good in the VFL at the weekend.
There's been some suggestions about TDK playing back.
Could be an interesting selection meeting.
People should know my background on the matter, but....
TDK is finally doing what we want him to do, consistently, after years of 'almosts'.....why the hell would we wanna rock the boat now just to bring Pitto in because he had a good game in the VFL.
I said all along i don't care who the hell it is, but we only need 1 ruck in the side. Shoehorning TDK into a defensive role is not fooling anyone, its still 2 rucks.
Re: AFL Rd 4 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle in Adelaide - pinot - 04-02-2024
I think Voss and team wants more endurance runners that run in waves and handball alot.
TDK is smashing his personal bests and there is no stopping him.
Re: AFL Rd 4 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle in Adelaide - kruddler - 04-02-2024
(04-02-2024, 07:41 AM)pinot link Wrote:I think Voss and team wants more endurance runners that run in waves and handball alot.
TDK is smashing his personal bests and there is no stopping him.
Exactly right.
We turned the season around when we had more runners in the side, Martin, Fogarty and Cuningham entered and our fortunes turned around. We went away from that in the final against Brisbane and it cost us.
We went back to 'normal' this year and results have repeated from our streak of 2023.
Re: AFL Rd 4 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle in Adelaide - Lods - 04-02-2024
(04-02-2024, 07:21 AM)kruddler link Wrote:People should know my background on the matter, but....
TDK is finally doing what we want him to do, consistently, after years of 'almosts'.....why the hell would we wanna rock the boat now just to bring Pitto in because he had a good game in the VFL.
I said all along i don't care who the hell it is, but we only need 1 ruck in the side. Shoehorning TDK into a defensive role is not fooling anyone, its still 2 rucks.
We know your thoughts Kruds
You've mentioned them before
I've no idea whether two rucks vs Freo would be a good idea.
I've no idea whether Tom could hold down a KPD defensive position
I'll leave that to the MC
There a bit more knowledgable than me when it comes to these things.
But I suspect there will be some games during the season when both play.
It will be a case of best match-ups and 'horses for courses'.
If it doesn't happen then I think Pittonet would (and should) be looking at a move at the end of the year.
Re: AFL Rd 4 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle in Adelaide - kruddler - 04-02-2024
(04-02-2024, 07:47 AM)Lods link Wrote:If it doesn't happen then I think Pittonet would (and should) be looking at a move at the end of the year.
Potentially, but i wouldn't if i was him....at least not yet.
He could be a 1 week injury away from a premiership medal. Right place, right time.