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Re: AFL Elimination Final 1 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - DJC - 08-28-2023
(08-27-2023, 09:35 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Acres will be a big loss, his work rate up and down the ground is phenomenal, he crashes, bashes and breaks tackles easily. A strong mark as well, its not surprise we completely fell away when he was subbed off yesterday.
We just had too many non contributors and nothing to play for. Saying we need to turn that attitude around in 2 weeks is a huger understatement.
Despite his mandatory out of bounds on the full, Acres has been very important all season. I think he’s the player we thought we were getting with Setterfield. Acres has the size and strength, and the willingness to use it, to have an impact at both ends of the ground as well as on his wing.
His shoulder didn’t seem to have dropped so it may not be a broken collarbone. Hopefully, it’s just a stinger.
Vossy was remarkably content in his post game presser. I think that he was happy to get games into Cez and Walsh, pleased that Charlie got the Coleman, encouraged by Harry’s hard work and ecstatic that, Acres aside, we came through unscathed.
Getting the boys up for the Swans shouldn’t be a problem.
Re: AFL Elimination Final 1 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - percy - 08-28-2023
A bit annoyed about Toby commenting publically about Weiters potential eye gouge. Maybe trying to help out his mates at the swans. The AFL will certainly look into it now.
The fact that it will help Sydney FC if Weiters is suspended concerns me.
Re: AFL Elimination Final 1 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - PaulP - 08-28-2023
(08-28-2023, 12:48 AM)percy link Wrote:A bit annoyed about Toby commenting publically about Weiters potential eye gouge. Maybe trying to help out his mates at the swans. The AFL will certainly look into it now.
The fact that it will help Sydney FC if Weiters is suspended concerns me.
I reckon Greene's tackle on McGovern was right on the edge of being declared dangerous, and then held on to McGovern for too long IMO with a choke hold around his neck.
Re: AFL Elimination Final 1 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - Micky0 - 08-28-2023
Toby just has that persona that shits you - he just comes across as a dick and he always plays on the edge if not over it.
Re: AFL Elimination Final 1 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - Mantis - 08-28-2023
(08-27-2023, 11:32 PM)PaulP link Wrote:Not at all confident about this game. Leaving aside questions about our available / unavailable personnel, the Swans are, from the coach down, a finals proven, battle hardened outfit, hitting form and self belief at the right time.
Beating them will be proof that we have what it takes to win a pressure game in finals. The players confidence would be sky high after a win here. Beating a side that has been there before will be a decent scalp. Now we just have to find a way to make it happen. I don’t care how and with which players in the side. Surely Voss will know what to say to have our boys ready for this challenge.
Re: AFL Elimination Final 1 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - PaulP - 08-28-2023
(08-28-2023, 01:56 AM)Mantis link Wrote:Beating them will be proof that we have what it takes to win a pressure game in finals. The players confidence would be sky high after a win here. Beating a side that has been there before will be a decent scalp. Now we just have to find a way to make it happen. I don’t care how and with which players in the side. Surely Voss will know what to say to have our boys ready for this challenge.
I agree..................if we beat them. The lacklustre effort last night, however people may want to spin it, would give me pause for thought.
Re: AFL Elimination Final 1 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - WASurfer - 08-28-2023
Will laugh if Weiters gets a fine and Toby cops a week for a dangerous tackle. It certainly looked dangerous, hence the remonstration from the Carlton players.
Acres would be a huge loss. If that happens, I can see us playing Doc up the ground and possibly on the wing.
I think Motlop comes back in as his form in the last few weeks was very good. Can't see us going with all 4 of him, Durdin, Owies and Fogarty so at least one misses out.
Re: AFL Elimination Final 1 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - BluePhantom - 08-28-2023
(08-28-2023, 02:59 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:Will laugh if Weiters gets a fine and Toby cops a week for a dangerous tackle. It certainly looked dangerous, hence the remonstration from the Carlton players.
Acres would be a huge loss. If that happens, I can see us playing Doc up the ground and possibly on the wing.
I think Motlop comes back in as his form in the last few weeks was very good. Can't see us going with all 4 of him, Durdin, Owies and Fogarty so at least one misses out.
Weiters and Toby will just get fines, the AFL want star players playing in Finals. Well I'm guessing on Weiters but Toby is a lock.
Durdin out, Motlop in.
Acres will be okay, it's 2 weeks away, just looked like he was unprepared for the knock on the arm and the flex it took, it certainly wasn't enough of a hit to break something.
I'm worried about Harry. Not kicking goals, not taking marks?
He is just good at taking a defender away from Charlie. But if that is his role then it's the role he plays.
Re: AFL Elimination Final 1 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - Macca37 - 08-28-2023
I am concerned that Harry's return isn't an automatic bonus for the forward line.
When Harry was out injured our midfield and small forwards seemed to be released from the predictable entry into the forward line of looking for either Harry or Charlie who nearly always led to the flanks. Instead, players went straight down the middle and were prepared to kick for goal from within the fifty metre arc, putting immediate pressure on the opposition defence. Our goals to points scored ratio improved and there was an immediate lift in the performances of Fogarty, Motlop, Martin and Owies.
As an example, in the Collingwood match Cincotta took a mark on the fifty metre arc, just went back and kicked a goal instead of trying to short pass.
My concern is that Harry's return will make it easier for the opposition defence if we return to the predictable method of entry into the forward line.
Re: AFL Elimination Final 1 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - BluePhantom - 08-28-2023
(08-28-2023, 03:37 AM)Macca37 link Wrote:I am concerned that Harry's return isn't an automatic bonus for the forward line.It looked like we went back to kick and hope, just kick it to a contest instead of honoring leads, or even making space and leading.
When Harry was out injured our midfield and small forwards seemed to be released from the predictable entry into the forward line of looking for either Harry or Charlie who nearly always led to the flanks. Instead, players went straight down the middle and were prepared to kick for goal from within the fifty metre arc, putting immediate pressure on the opposition defence. Our goals to points scored ratio improved and there was an immediate lift in the performances of Fogarty, Motlop, Martin and Owies.
As an example, in the Collingwood match Cincotta took a mark on the fifty metre arc, just went back and kicked a goal instead of trying to short pass.
My concern is that Harry's return will make it easier for the opposition defence if we return to the predictable method of entry into the forward line.