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Re: AFL Rd 14 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast - LP - 06-12-2023
In my opinion currently Young and Motlop are boat anchors, they both take short steps.
Motlop's a kid, but he can't be persisted with at AFL level until he has a genuine attack on the ball, he needs time to develop in the VFL, not just a week or two but a season or two!
Young isn't a kid, he's never going to change, we need to look elsewhere because he's just a 200cm version of Tutt, Lang or Smedts.
Finally, the same goes for LoB, when you start shirking contests against CheatsFC and it's lightweight outside running crew there is no coming back!
Re: AFL Rd 14 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast - Professer E - 06-12-2023
Yep, over Motlop being gifted games.
Re: AFL Rd 14 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-12-2023
(06-12-2023, 12:55 AM)LP link Wrote:In my opinion currently Young and Motlop are boat anchors, they both take short steps.Fully agree...Acres has copped some shite from me and others for his kicking but he did hold his ground well on the wing in a head on contest and he gets a tick from me for that and those acts are very rare from a few of our blokes these days and I hope the coaching staff point that out during the week and tell all the players that's the standard we expect.
Motlop's a kid, but he can't be persisted with at AFL level until he has a genuine attack on the ball, he needs time to develop in the VFL, not just a week or two but a season or two!
Young isn't a kid, he's never going to change, we need to look elsewhere because he's just a 200cm version of Tutt, Lang or Smedts.
Finally, the same goes for LoB, when you start shirking contests against CheatsFC and it's lightweight outside running crew there is no coming back!
It's embarrassing seeing us so feeble at times...did see Owies have a crack at a few Essendon players but when Ed was jumped by a bunch of players after that Merritt goal I would have wanted my players to fly the flag and get more willing at the contest.
Re: AFL Rd 14 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast - WASurfer - 06-12-2023
I'm not sold on Boyd either but at least he can hit a target....the same can't be said of too many others. I'd persist with him, and defintely Kemp.
Dow needs to be in the 22 next week. Making him the sub is just a waste of time.
Hopefully Pittonet is available to take on Witts.
Cunningham in for sure and maybe Fisher for Motlop.
Re: AFL Rd 14 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast - JonDorotich - 06-12-2023
Out - Acres, E Curnow, Motlop, Silvagni, Young
In - Dow, Binns, Cowan, Cunningham, Pittonet,
Arguably we're facing a very simple equation i.e. Poor game plan + only 1 AFL standard small forward + average Ruck + 1 AFL standard key back + poor foot speed across the field + raft of players who can't kick or handpass accurately + raft of players who cant make good decisions under pressure + material portion of our salary cap invested in players who are out of form.
With the exception of the game plan, lets discuss in turn
(1) Small forwards - we'd hoped that Honey was the answer and watched Durdin emerge last year, but both are not there for different reasons and it has hurt. Motlop needs time to develop. We need to delist Honey, develop Motlop in the twos and go with makeshift forwards in the meantime that can at least hold the ball in our forward half or have enough pace to pressure the ball carrier. Consider Dow, Docherty, Cottrell, Boyd, Cunningham.
(2) Average Ruck - we may have signed him for 4 years, but Pittonet is just an average AFL ruck, light years behind a Gawn, Darcy etc. TDK is flashy but delivers little & Okeefe and Mirkov are a mile off. We'll need to trade for a decent ruckman at year end.
(3) Key Defensive backs - Young and Durdin are simply VFL players at best & S Durdin is way too slow for AFL. McGovern can't be trusted at all in defence, despite this narrative that he's great for our structure. We'll need to trade off our forwards to address our backline. Consider converting one or more of our talls to key defenders & Mcgovern or Kemp forward.
(4) No pace - Pace gives you time and space and our lack of pace across the ground is consistently putting us under pressure. We cant carry Cripps, Kennedy, E Curnow, Weitering, Silvagni & Acres. Obviously Dow should come in and Cunningham should come in as soon as possible and we should inject some youth in Binns and I would also give McGovern & Kemp a run through the midfield from time to time.
'(5) Disposal and decision making - Probably our biggest issue and the hardest to resolve. All of our highest paid players, with the exception of Cerra, are guilty of of this. Whilst Cripps, Walsh, Docherty & Acres may have good stats, they repeatedly let us down with poor decisions or disposal at critical moments which is in stark contrast to Collingwood's leaders. Acres is a bust.
Laugh if you like, but I'd be putting more faith in the side below than the tripe that we've been watching for the past 8 weeks'
Preferred side:
Boyd Weitering Kemp
Saad TDK Cincotta
Walsh Cerra Cunningham
Cottrell Curnow Docherty
Owies Mckay McGovern
Pittonet Cripps Dow
Cowan, Kennedy, Binns & Martin
Make it happen!
Re: AFL Rd 14 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast - Professer E - 06-12-2023
Close to the side Id prefer
Re: AFL Rd 14 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast - rocky - 06-12-2023
(06-12-2023, 02:23 AM)JonDorotich link Wrote:Out - Acres, E Curnow, Motlop, Silvagni, YoungGood side. I like it, although I'd keep Acres based purely on that one effort on the wing where he put the body in. Very rare to see from a Carlton player so he stays and Owies can go.
In - Dow, Binns, Cowan, Cunningham, Pittonet,
Preferred side:
Boyd Weitering Kemp
Saad TDK Cincotta
Walsh Cerra Cunningham
Cottrell Curnow Docherty
Owies Mckay McGovern
Pittonet Cripps Dow
Cowan, Kennedy, Binns & Martin
Make it happen!
Re: AFL Rd 14 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast - Thryleon - 06-12-2023
Anyone know how to watch internationally without hitting up a bar?
Re: AFL Rd 14 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast - rocky - 06-12-2023
(06-12-2023, 11:09 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Anyone know how to watch internationally without hitting up a bar?Do you have Kayo or similar sport streaming service?
Re: AFL Rd 14 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast - Gointocarlton - 06-12-2023
(06-12-2023, 11:49 AM)rocky link Wrote:Do you have Kayo or similar sport streaming service?I think you'll trouble logging in from an international IP address. Same as trying to log into overseas stream services from here. You'd have to have one of those IP address mask things, being in IT Im sure Thry would know far better than me how to do that.