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Re: Weiters scammed - cookie2 - 04-27-2023

(04-27-2023, 11:00 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Likewise. If I don't know the number then I don't answer it... if it's legit, they'll leave a message. The end. Same with text messages... unfamiliar - delete. The end.

That’s what I normally do Baggers but beware of spoof caller ids.


Re: Weiters scammed - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-27-2023

(04-27-2023, 10:19 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I essentially no longer take calls from any organisation. I call them if I need to. As for texts and emails with links? Delete.
Ditto....I dont even ring much ...only deal in branch, hence I dont deal with any company that doesnt have a proper set of branches that I can physically walk into. The NAB text scam has been around for a while and NAB have sent a few warning messages out...



Re: Weiters scammed - Thryleon - 04-27-2023

(04-27-2023, 11:01 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Probably a bit harsh there Thry. It can happen to anyone, especially a professional sportsman with a million footy related things on his mind. It only takes one brain fade.

(04-27-2023, 10:59 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:That’ll make him feel a lot better.

I get it, fans want to molly coddle, but these scams have been flying around for a while and I expect better from one of the smartest players in our team.




Re: Weiters scammed - northernblue - 04-27-2023

(04-27-2023, 11:51 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:I get it, fans want to molly coddle, but these scams have been flying around for a while and I expect better from one of the smartest players in our team.

Good grief, you’re only as smart as your last distracted click…
No one’s organising a gofundme, ease up.


Re: Weiters scammed - LP - 04-27-2023

(04-27-2023, 11:51 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:I get it, fans want to molly coddle, but these scams have been flying around for a while and I expect better from one of the smartest players in our team.
Hubris has a tendency to bite the hand that feeds it.

Scams are becoming pretty sophisticated, I wouldn't dare think I won't be the next one scammed and I hope you don't suffer such a fate.

I read in a tech journal the other day about the new uses of AI that crooks are implementing. In the USA with AI now picking up speed, if you have enough cash to buy a HPC you setup a private system, from just a very very small audio sample the crooks can copy a loved ones voice, and then conduct a real-time phone call conversation with the target victim using another persons voice. The scam is they ring a loved ones close relative to collect an audio sample, the AI can then from the sample it gathers convert spoken words into the sampled voice in real time. It is like the "Mum I lost my phone" scam amplified 1000x to the point you are going to have to distrust a loved one ringing for help.


Re: Weiters scammed - LP - 04-27-2023

(04-27-2023, 11:53 AM)northernblue date Wrote:Good grief, you’re only as smart as your last distracted click…
No one’s organising a gofundme, ease up.
So much of the kids live and die by what happens online now, far more get scammed than they realise, and anyone who knows a smidgen about cyber crime knows nobody is safe.

The big problem globally is that Russia and North Korea basically fund state activities using cyber crime. North Korea have pulled off massive heists cleaning out bullion and cash from even the reserve banks of countries, all protected by people who think it couldn't happen to them!

There was a great documentary made about this a couple of years back, it is called the Lazarus Heist, have a listen!  To cover their tracks, the Russians basically make all the same tools freely available on the Dark Web, the more people that use them the greater the smokescreen for their own activities.

The only thing that keeps you safe, is not attracting the crooks attention.

Jacob Weitering was both very studious and very academic at school, a good student who actually prioritised his studies over football. He scored highly in ATAR, he's not one to be gullible or careless. The people that scammed Weiters didn't do it with a simple click of a mouse, they apparently set him up over months of messages and correspondance.


Re: Weiters scammed - dodge - 04-27-2023

(04-27-2023, 11:51 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:I get it, fans want to molly coddle, but these scams have been flying around for a while and I expect better from one of the smartest players in our team.
I know quite a few very smart/ intelligent people that don't have a practical bone in their body.  Everyone will be scammed at one point.  Luckily for me, it has only been 2.5K for an organisation that I work for so far.



Re: Weiters scammed - Gointocarlton - 04-27-2023

It was reported that the scammers appeared extremely legit after receiving a series of text s and phone calls,  he transferred all his life savings into what they called a safeguard account over a period of a week. He transferred his daily limit every day until his accounts were empty.
Poor bugger, didn't tell anyone at first.

DO NOT TAKE CALLS OR TEXTS FROM ANYONE YOU DONT KNOW AND BY THAT I MEAN ONLY FRIENDS?CONTACTS.


Re: Weiters scammed - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-27-2023

(04-27-2023, 08:32 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:It was reported that the scammers appeared extremely legit after receiving a series of text s and phone calls,  he transferred all his life savings into what they called a safeguard account over a period of a week. He transferred his daily limit every day until his accounts were empty.
Poor bugger, didn't tell anyone at first.

DO NOT TAKE CALLS OR TEXTS FROM ANYONE YOU DONT KNOW AND BY THAT I MEAN ONLY FRIENDS?CONTACTS.
It's a common smishing scam where you are told your account has been hacked and the bank want to put your money in a holding account while they create a new one for you. It's not new and that's why I am surprised an intelligent bloke like Weitering got caught in the scam..


Re: Weiters scammed - Thryleon - 04-27-2023

(04-27-2023, 12:17 PM)LP link Wrote:Hubris has a tendency to bite the hand that feeds it.

Scams are becoming pretty sophisticated, I wouldn't dare think I won't be the next one scammed and I hope you don't suffer such a fate.

I read in a tech journal the other day about the new uses of AI that crooks are implementing. In the USA with AI now picking up speed, if you have enough cash to buy a HPC you setup a private system, from just a very very small audio sample the crooks can copy a loved ones voice, and then conduct a real-time phone call conversation with the target victim using another persons voice. The scam is they ring a loved ones close relative to collect an audio sample, the AI can then from the sample it gathers convert spoken words into the sampled voice in real time. It is like the "Mum I lost my phone" scam amplified 1000x to the point you are going to have to distrust a loved one ringing for help.

It's not hubris. It's a cynical world view.  No one called me and offered me anything that didn't have something in it for them.  If I don't initiate contact everything is a scam, and there are some basics that people can follow to protect themselves in these situations such as trust but verify.

Thats not to say I won't ever get scammed.

You know it's interesting, here I am seeing how Jacob screwed himself over yet for some reason people are saying oh it could happen to anyone which is precisely why I'm dissapointed.  Everyone thinks not me, but the reality is you are all next and simply believing that there is a bridge in Nigeria for sale is one of the problems.