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Re: AFLW 2022 Rd 6: Carlton vs Fremantle - crashlander - 02-12-2022
Playing with a real lack of confidence and making critical errors.
The commentary is so biased that it makes me ill.
There is no run and we make errors a ten year old wouldn't make.
I know Harf has done really good things for us, but this is not unusual this year. We cannot play like this.
Re: AFLW 2022 Rd 6: Carlton vs Fremantle - crashlander - 02-12-2022
I'm sorry, but we need to make some changes in the coaching staff.
I don't want to put all of the blame in Daniel Harford: there have been a lot of things were not under his control. But we are better than we're showing at the moment. Talent wise we are as good as Freo, today's result not withstanding. But we don't look fit enough. there is no run at all and very little back-up, our players are making simple errors, their heads drop very easily and their skills don't appear to have improved.
Unfortunately, there are all things in the coach's direct control. In the end, he is ultimately responsible. It isn't fair, and I think he is the best coach we've had so far, but it isn't working. What he is saying is not providing results.
And things are not likely to get better for us. With our non-performance on the field, our better players will be tempted by bids from expansion clubs. What we get in return will be negligible in comparison to what we lose. Then, the draft will be compromised, again! That means we will not be able up improve our list with good youngsters, as they won't be available for us to select. Unless our former players can produce a large number of female offspring in the near term, we're going to really struggle.
Re: AFLW 2022 Rd 6: Carlton vs Fremantle - crashlander - 02-12-2022
FREMANTLE 1.0 2.1 6.2 7.9 (51)
CARLTON 1.2 1.2 1.2 1.3 (9)
GOALS
Fremantle: Morrison 3, Hyde 2, K Antonio, Stewart
Carlton: Vescio
BEST
Fremantle: Morrison, Miller, K Antonio, O'Sullivan, O'Driscoll, Pugh, Hyde
Carlton: Hill, Moody, Prespakis, Vescio, Egan
INJURIES
Fremantle: Roux (hamstring awareness)
Carlton: Nil
Reports: Nil
Re: AFLW 2022 Rd 6: Carlton vs Fremantle - LoveNavy - 02-12-2022
1 point in 3q of football. Nothing more to say.
For whatever reasons, we are 6 goals behind the pack. Where do you start?
Re: AFLW 2022 Rd 6: Carlton vs Fremantle - DJC - 02-12-2022
(02-12-2022, 09:43 AM)LoveNavy link Wrote:1 point in 3q of football. Nothing more to say.
For whatever reasons, we are 6 goals behind the pack. Where do you start?
1. Finding a key forward who can mark, kick accurately and draw defenders to her.
2. Not being so quick to move on older players with plenty of good footy left in them.
Re: AFLW 2022 Rd 6: Carlton vs Fremantle - northernblue - 02-13-2022
Downie may have been worthwhile as a deep target for a year or two whilst seeking a younger kpp
Re: AFLW 2022 Rd 6: Carlton vs Fremantle - kruddler - 02-13-2022
(02-12-2022, 09:43 AM)LoveNavy link Wrote:1 point in 3q of football. Nothing more to say.
For whatever reasons, we are 6 goals behind the pack. Where do you start?
Darcy Vescio kicked 1.2 in about 8 minutes of footy.
The rest of the team managed 0.1 in the next 50-odd minutes. :-[
Re: AFLW 2022 Rd 6: Carlton vs Fremantle - kruddler - 02-13-2022
(02-13-2022, 02:32 AM)northernblue link Wrote:Downie may have been worthwhile as a deep target for a year or two whilst seeking a younger kpp
Downie was used to fill a hole at CHB towards in her last season. She was next to useless for most of the time, and managed about 5 possessions a game and was clearly not going to get any better.
The question was, do we persist with her, knowing her output would be on the decline, from an already relatively low level, or do we start pushing the kids through and give someone like Paige Trudgeon a similar role. We obviously moved Downie on, and Trudgie has exceeded most people expectations and actually been in the votes the last 2 weeks.
So, in isolation, that move has worked.
To add to that, we made that decision with Serena Gibbs earmarked as our next key forward. We moved Downie on and then found out that Gibbs would be sitting out the year (eg similar to Jones and the mens.......screwed on both accounts).
That being said, we also have 2 other options we want to try, Jess Good and Imogen Milford.
Unfortunaly both have missed multiple weeks due to H+S protocols which has compounded the loss of Downie (and Harris).
Simply put, the AFLW lists are not big enough to 'carry' someone as backup.
70% (21) of your list is playing in the 1's each week.
10-20% (3-6) of your list is usually injured at any given time.
That means you have 3-6 players who are fit enough to play 1's, but are not picked.
Given that 10% (3) of your list is recently drafted players....usually 18yo's.
There isn't really a whole lot you can do in terms of personnel.
Re: AFLW 2022 Rd 6: Carlton vs Fremantle - crashlander - 02-13-2022
(02-13-2022, 02:32 AM)northernblue link Wrote:Downie may have been worthwhile as a deep target for a year or two whilst seeking a younger kppHaving seen her play for Collingwood, I think we made the right decision on Downie. She has a big heart, but she doesn't get to the contests like she used to and she no longer does much in the ruck.
We probably made the right call on Loynes, as she has struggled to make a real impact with GWS, But she is a great trier and tackler, something that isn't happening at the moment.
Losing Dalton was like a knife in the heart. She may not be setting the world on fire at GWS, but she was brilliant for us and made our midfield just so much more potent.
Losing Harris was also a disaster, although there wasn't much we could do about that. Even though she was poor last year, she has so much talent. She is also the focal point we badly miss at the moment.
Gibbs is a much larger loss than expected because we lost Harris as well. We would be better with her as a target. Not as a ruck.
Trudgeon has been reasonable and has generally filled in Downie's role in defence. As Krudd noticed, she has probably exceeded expectations. That hasn't been the case with many of our players.
To be honest, I think the lack of pre-season has affected us both last year and this year. A couple of years back we finished all over the top of other sides. We don't do that now. In fact, we start well enough and then run out of gas. other teams, like Adelaide and Freo, really ran all over us late in the game. It was even obvious against Collingwood. We need to change out fitness regime. It would also help if we played fewer games when it is so hot, but that is another tale.