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Re: The opposition run on - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-10-2021
(05-10-2021, 08:54 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:We did well for three qtrs EB.Carlton used to win games all the time by playing one (Premiership)quarter back in the good old days.
A wise supporter told me that.........?
You look at the Bonts stats vs Cripps and tell me you can get away with teams better mids getting a free ride when they play on our co captain.. I remember Collingwood started this with Pendlebury a season or two back, Saints copied with Steele and now every club does it.
Re: The opposition run on - Thryleon - 05-10-2021
The run on.
Its really simple. We convert one behind to a goal, and that run on is a non event.
We compound the issue, by using the ball poorly, and making stupid decisions (like playing on from a pack mark on the wing and getting done for holding the ball).
Its the biggest misnomer in history to worry about run ons like they are habitual patterns that play out because we cant or wont stop it. We can, we just dont, because we miss too many easy shots for goal.
Geelong kicked 8 in a row against the reigning premiers on friday night. Richmond fumbled and they scored a lot. Stop fumbling so much, and this is the magic potion that stops it, retain possession and take the momentum back.
Its the number one way to arrest the momentum turn, and that is possess the footy.
We turn it over. Stop the turnovers, stop the run ons.
Re: The opposition run on - Gointocarlton - 05-10-2021
(05-10-2021, 10:46 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Carlton used to win games all the time by playing one (Premiership)quarter back in the good old days.I agree with you, all I was saying is we did a lot right and well for 3 qtrs against the second best team in the comp.
A wise supporter told me that.........?
You look at the Bonts stats vs Cripps and tell me you can get away with teams better mids getting a free ride when they play on our co captain.. I remember Collingwood started this with Pendlebury a season or two back, Saints copied with Steele and now every club does it.
As far as the Cripps v Bont argument, Bont has nudged ahead. Better impact player, better leader (from a supporter looking in) and a slightly more reliable kick for goal.
Re: The opposition run on - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-10-2021
(05-10-2021, 10:55 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I agree with you, all I was saying is we did a lot right and well for 3 qtrs against the second best team in the comp.Think the Bont has bolted ahead, his skills are better and he is a strong unit, in the last quarter we just couldnt restrain him even when he was tackled. Cripps was like Samson but Russell decided to play Deliah and cut his size back to make him quicker and its been downhill since with him being injured and teams showing him no respect by not playing taggers on him but playing their better mids so they get a free run once the stoppage has finished like I said.
As far as the Cripps v Bont argument, Bont has nudged ahead. Better impact player, better leader (from a supporter looking in) and a slightly more reliable kick for goal.
The modern quicker game has caught up with him and when you are slow to start with and then have to carry the team on your back along with your own injuries its made him as much a liability as a weapon.
We did do a lot right but never really had them by the throat and I think we all knew what was coming at 3/4 time.....
Re: The opposition run on - Gointocarlton - 05-10-2021
(05-10-2021, 11:09 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Think the Bont has bolted ahead, his skills are better and he is a strong unit, in the last quarter we just couldnt restrain him even when he was tackled. Cripps was like Samson but Russell decided to play Deliah and cut his size back to make him quicker and its been downhill since with him being injured and teams showing him no respect by not playing taggers on him but playing their better mids so they get a free run once the stoppage has finished like I said.He's heavier this year, he stripped a few kegs off last year.
The modern quicker game has caught up with him and when you are slow to start with and then have to carry the team on your back along with your own injuries its made him as much a liability as a weapon.
We did do a lot right but never really had them by the throat and I think we all knew what was coming at 3/4 time.....
Re: The opposition run on - flyboy77 - 05-10-2021
Cripps is clearly injured.
The Club needs to force the guy to rest and heal.
He's no good to anyone in his current physical and mental state.
Mentally, he's trying to do way too much.
Adopt the KISS principle Crippa ffs.
Re: The opposition run on - pew2 - 05-12-2021
we need team defence been saying this for years ,we need to run back and plug the holes in our d50
Re: The opposition run on - madbluboy - 05-12-2021
We apply the least amount of pressure in the comp. It's that simple.
Re: The opposition run on - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-12-2021
(05-12-2021, 06:12 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:We apply the least amount of pressure in the comp. It's that simple.When you cant be bothered manning the mark for a kick on goal thats a giveaway about their mindset.
Never seen that before in a senior AFL game, thats year 7 schoolboy stuff when the kids who prefer quiet times in the library are
seconded to make up the numbers and have zero interest in the game.
Other coaches would have gone off their nut with attitude, Ross Lyon goes on about our lack of pressure and where we rate in the comp each week on Footy class when he does his game reviews.
Re: The opposition run on - PaulP - 05-12-2021
(05-12-2021, 06:12 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:We apply the least amount of pressure in the comp. It's that simple.
Part of that must be coaching. I'm quite certain that the boys are playing to instruction. I'm of the opinion that Teague wants the players not to be sucked into the contest, to be ready for the next chain of disposals. Obviously the balance is off at the moment, and as Leppitsch says, it's something that needs tweaking and not wholesale renovation.