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Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - madbluboy - 05-10-2021
We have had some competitive losses so we are probably due to get flogged.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - Slowhand - 05-10-2021
Had a chuckle at the coaches comment about getting flogged in the middle in the last Q.
Then two mins later when he was quizzed re changes he said that we have plenty of ON BALLERS pushing for selection....
That means the changes this week will be drop young players who don’t play through the middle (stocker,cottrell,newnes) and bring in proven non ON BALLERS such as Murphy and LOB...
MY 5 cents re selection. Why not we are better off playing for the second half of the season...
Outs Williams (managed) Cripps (managed). JSOS (concussion), The Bolt (time is up), Gibbons (struggling)
Ins. TDK, Newman, Dow, Kennedy, Honey and Durdin
AND ANYONE WHO IS OVER 6 ft 2......
None of this will happen, I’m dreaming. Can’t wait till Martin, Fish, Kemp and Charlie are all available.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - PaulP - 05-10-2021
Both the Doggies and Melbourne have been on a constant path for several years. They got to where they are now by sticking fat and not panicking, putting the pieces of the puzzle together bit by bit. Look at their ladder positions compared to ours, look at their lists compared to ours. They've moved up the ladder, dipped, stagnated, but never deviated.
I'm sorry to say it, but the constant upheavals for us just keeping moving the target further away. It's been one step forwards, two steps back for 20 years.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - Gointocarlton - 05-10-2021
Same as what I said last week, bring our best for 4 qtrs and we are a chance. We played the second best, this week we play the best, this is what its all about.
I'd like to see a bit of speed added, one or two of Honey, Dow, LOB for Gibbo and Williams (to be "rested" to let him heal from these debilitating "injuries" he has). Maybe he can even heal them in the 2's.
TDK for Levi
Bam Bam for Jack
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - Macca37 - 05-10-2021
Let's face it, we know our list is simply not good enough to get us into the eight.
By failing to accept that reality the Club risks further injuring players. We need to rest the likes of Cripps and Williams until they are fit to play, whether in a few weeks time or later in the season.
In the meantime let's sort out who in the seconds is worthy of staying on the list by giving game time to the likes of Dow, Honey, Setterfield, etc.
Several Carlton supporters I have spoken to since the loss to the dogs are ready to give up on Carlton if we continue playing just three quarters of football. They have simply had a gut full of broken promises, and going by social media that view is widespread.
We have had twenty years of little green shoots which have been cut down by demoralising losses. If it continues, membership and general support for the Club must suffer.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - kruddler - 05-10-2021
(05-10-2021, 06:08 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Both the Doggies and Melbourne have been on a constant path for several years.
Constant path? They've both been on a roller coaster ride recently, specifically Melbourne.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - Professer E - 05-10-2021
But Macca - Liddle said the "time for development is over" !?!
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-10-2021
(05-10-2021, 07:39 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Constant path? They've both been on a roller coaster ride recently, specifically Melbourne.Agree on the Dees,they have May and Lever now fit and firing, Tomlinson was also in great from before being injured, did I hear right on the TV they are the No 1 defense in the comp?
Petracca has also gone to the next level and is now an A grader....
Not sold on them though and IMO they are impostors at the top of the ladder.....
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - kruddler - 05-10-2021
(05-10-2021, 08:10 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Agree on the Dees,they have May and Lever now fit and firing, Tomlinson was also in great from before being injured, did I hear right on the TV they are the No 1 defense in the comp?
Petracca has also gone to the next level and is now an A grader....
Not sold on them though and IMO they are impostors at the top of the ladder.....
Petraccas dominance in the midfield means their defence doesn't have to work as hard.
If Cripps did was Cripps used to do, we'd be much better in defence too.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - Mantis - 05-10-2021
(05-10-2021, 08:10 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Agree on the Dees,they have May and Lever now fit and firing, Tomlinson was also in great from before being injured, did I hear right on the TV they are the No 1 defense in the comp?
Petracca has also gone to the next level and is now an A grader....
Not sold on them though and IMO they are impostors at the top of the ladder.....
Obviously until they win a flag they are just pretenders. What happens if they win the flag? Will your opinion change? They zone as well as any side does, covering the opposition moves forward or on a rebound. They leave minimal opportunities to have players float forward free in space. They tackle with intensity. They apply pressure with numbers. They make every opportunity for their opponents become a contested possession. Due to the fact that they have a huge work rate. Not lazy. Not left second guessing. The only weak link in their armour is the clearance figures. Which at the moment doesn’t hurt them. They find a way to put on the press and create a turnover and get the ball on their terms eventually. If we played like they do. If we were 8 wins from 8 games. We would be bragging about being flag favourites. Fact is that we are so far behind them, that we are not even in the same league as they are. It will take a miracle for us to even show a competitive contest against the Dees. Which won’t last long enough if it does happen. The end result will be ugly on the scoreboard.
We lack awareness under pressure. We lose our direct opponent too often when the heat is on. We zone space very poorly. We don’t stay accountable for what out opponent is doing or where he is running. We don’t run hard both ways. We don’t stand on the mark in a free kick. We float away and let them play on which allows them to gain ground and put pressure on our players up the ground. We finger point and blame others for our own mistakes. We do spoil and the one percentage plays, but not often enough. Not for 4 quarters.
The Dees coach summed up their last game. They lack some polish with clearance work. However, if they have the grit and determination to win every contest, they will eventually create a turnover and play the next passage on their terms. They are confident they can and will win every game, and thus play accordingly. In my eyes they only have one lazy player. One that I have seen so far. What a problem they have at the moment. Can we swap players lists, coaches, board etc? lol. Good luck to us. We could win this one by 100 points. Haha haha.