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Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - Lods - 05-09-2021
(05-09-2021, 08:10 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Heart problem?
SOJ off
SPS on
Bulldogs on
Carlton off
Coincidence?
Yep.
Silvagni had probably his worst game for the year.
He was pretty ineffectual.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - townsendcalling - 05-09-2021
Is it just me or is the body language of Cripps similar to a guy keeping a secret from his mates and it’s weighing heavily on his mind? Either that or he is injured. Take your pick.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - Gointocarlton - 05-09-2021
If its goal and goal more or less and you lose, cest la vie. But the 30 point turnarounds (unanswered) is completely unacceptable no matter who we are playing.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - kruddler - 05-09-2021
(05-09-2021, 08:21 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:If its goal and goal more or less and you lose, cest la vie. But the 30 point turnarounds (unanswered) is completely unacceptable no matter who we are playing.
There was an article during the week that said our problem was we had too many midfielders.
I'd like to see what they think about that now.
We lost centre clearances at one stage in the 2nd half 15-1.
That is where we lost the game.
We couldn't stop Bont and we couldn't get the ball out of the centre.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - shawny - 05-09-2021
Pit is NOT and AFL standard ruckman. Not even close. He was beaten by a second gamer and was still unable to give our midfield any clear takeaways. HTF are we slaughtered in clearances with a 2nd gamer rucking. Can you imagine what Gawn will do to this bloke next week. Just shows you how far off it we are development wise when a 2nd gamer can come in and have an impact. Same with their first gamer he showed straight off that he had been developed. We are still a fair bit off it.
And don’t let me start on Cripps and Williams. Ffs I’m so sick of both of these blokes. Over paid over rated. Sick of excuses. If Cripps wants to go home good get a decent deal and catch ya later. He needs to be dropped but won’t be. Kane Cornes is 110% right - he is not an elite midfielder had a few good years but is not damaging at all and gets burnt on the outside time and time again. Paying this bloke a cent more then 600k a year would be laughable.
Switch jumpers with Bont and Cripps today and we win by 6 goals.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - kruddler - 05-09-2021
(05-09-2021, 08:25 AM)shawny link Wrote:Pit is NOT and AFL standard ruckman. Not even close. He was beaten by a second gamer and was still unable to give our midfield any clear takeaways. HTF are we slaughtered in clearances with a 2nd gamer rucking. Can you imagine what Gawn will do to this bloke next week. Just shows you how far off it we are development wise when a 2nd gamer can come in and have an impact. Same with their first gamer he showed straight off that he had been developed. We are still a fair bit off it.
Well.....thats a bit embarrassing.
Hitouts
33 Pittonet
8 Casboult
17 Sweet
5 Bruce
Disposals
17 Pittonet
9 Sweet
Clearances
7 Pittonet (most for Carlton, 3rd behind Bont + Libba)
1 Sweet
I can't get hitout to advantage stats yet, but i don't think Pittonet was the problem.
Cripps being MIA, Williams appearing on the team sheet, but barely sighted on the ground, SPS doing similar after Jack went off....
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - JonDorotich - 05-09-2021
(05-09-2021, 08:10 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Heart problem?
SOJ off
SPS on
Bulldogs on
Carlton off
Coincidence?
Obviously ridiculous to lay the blame for that loss on SPS. He wasn’t great but you can’t really glean a form line on a quarter of footy entering the game at 3/4 time.
Need to look further ..,.Cripps and Williams both horribly out of form and Jones makes so many stupid decisions and is a teammate wrecking ball, continually clattering into our players.
Pittonet, Newnes, Cottrell, Parks, Casboult, Gibbons, Curnow, Plowman try hard but either lack the finish or decision making of better players. They’ll continue to make errors, we’ll all be frustrated, but generally their effort out good. Clearly if we’re to rise up the ladder we can’t carry so many of this type of player.
Bontempelli showed everybody how a real leader leads.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - kruddler - 05-09-2021
(05-09-2021, 08:33 AM)JonDorotich link Wrote:Obviously ridiculous to lay the blame for that loss on SPS. He wasn’t great but you can’t really glean a form line on a quarter of footy entering the game at 3/4 time.
I'm not blaming the loss on him.
But Jack going down was the turning point. Momentum turned after that.
Despite SPS' heroics last week (as i pointed out pre-game) it is far from common from him and he offered us nothing when he came on.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - shawny - 05-09-2021
(05-09-2021, 08:21 AM)townsendcalling link Wrote:Is it just me or is the body language of Cripps similar to a guy keeping a secret from his mates and it’s weighing heavily on his mind? Either that or he is injured. Take your pick.
Or maybe he just isn’t as good as he was. It’s a faster outside game now and he has been found out big time for leg speed and fitness.
When you really look at it he is only elite at extracting the ball. He’s an average ball user by foot, poor kick for goal, below average fitness and absolutely horrible defensively. And no clue how to play forward.
I hate to admit it but Kane Cornes is right. He’s overrated and not at all damaging in the current game. Imo I hope we look very seriously into what is offered to let him go home.
I’m over him
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 8: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-09-2021
(05-09-2021, 08:10 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Bontempelli's stats.Plus Bruce...Jones had a shocker including that non spoil on the Bont in the last quarter.
32 disposals (=game high)
19 Contested possessions (game high)
8 Tackles (2nd highest of the game)
10 Inside 50's (2nd....5 above 3rd)
10 Clearances (2nd)
5 Centre clearances (2nd)
12 Score involvements (=game high)
617m Gained (2nd)
2 goal assists (=game high)
3 Brownlow votes
THAT was the ballgame.
Saad had a shocker too, dumb frees when it mattered and Williams was a non event.