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Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood - tonyo - 03-19-2021

(03-19-2021, 06:10 AM)kruddler link Wrote:I think the time has come with SPS and biting the bullet.....move him out of defence!

We got Saad and Williams in who play a similar role to SPS, runner + user.

Put SPS further up the ground and let him kick at goal, not 2m in front of mids in the centre of the ground.

I think SPS has been played out of position in an effort to turn him into a Saad-like defender.  Now that we have the real thing, I would re-purpose him into a run-with mid.  We will need one when Ed finally hits the wall.


Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 03-19-2021

(03-19-2021, 06:30 AM)tonyo link Wrote:I think SPS has been played out of position in an effort to turn him into a Saad-like defender.  Now that we have the real thing, I would re-purpose him into a run-with mid.  We will need one when Ed finally hits the wall.
We can't get him to chase an opponent when he is a defender....what hope do we have if he is a mid?!

Wing/HF for mine.


Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-19-2021

(03-19-2021, 06:31 AM)kruddler link Wrote:We can't get him to chase an opponent when he is a defender....what hope do we have if he is a mid?!

Wing/HF for mine.
Tend to agree, I think SPS might have the odd day when he can defend and man a player but its not his natural game and as a winger he might have some freedom to create. I see him as that 4th or 5th midfielder not as a core player who you can rely on each week to get you 30 possies but that poor mans Brad Hill type.


Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood - WASurfer - 03-19-2021

Shawny....exactly my selection in another thread. McDonald can be a marking option and Casboult purely back up ruck. Martin and Williams in for sure....LOB, SPS and SOSJ out.


Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood - Gointocarlton - 03-19-2021

(03-19-2021, 05:21 AM)kruddler link Wrote:I asked in the other thread if anyone would keep LOB in the side.

I then suggested that anyone who would, is doing so simply to give him some time in the 1's and hopefully get up to speed. Rather than he deserves his spot through his performance.

So i gotta ask, which is it?
He has great endurance and has a weapon of a left foot but doesn't use either enough. He needs it drummed into him to take the game on and use those weapons at every opportunity. He needs game after game in the top flight league to learn how to use them. Go for broke, play him every week and get the confidence up and he could flourish. Just my opinion.


Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood - Gointocarlton - 03-19-2021

(03-19-2021, 06:31 AM)kruddler link Wrote:We can't get him to chase an opponent when he is a defender....what hope do we have if he is a mid?!

Wing/HF for mine.
Too slow, doesn't go hard enough and doesn't have a penetrating kick. Would get rag dolled in the middle. Play him in the twos, not the ones, to learn what he can and can't do.


Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood - Professer E - 03-19-2021

No he doesn't deserve an extended run.  He made critical errors that cost goals, we can't carry blokes like that.  He can learn in the twos,  and if he shows sustained form he can come in but given last nights showing Cottrell or Carroll can play wing,  and quite frankly are probably going to have more impact and c$@'! Up less.  We need to win games,  the seniors is no longer about  gifting development games to kids. 


Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood - shawny - 03-19-2021

(03-19-2021, 08:35 AM)Professer E link Wrote:No he doesn't deserve an extended run.  He made critical errors that cost goals, we can't carry blokes like that.  He can learn in the twos,  and if he shows sustained form he can come in but given last nights showing Cottrell or Carroll can play wing,  and quite frankly are probably going to have more impact and c$@'! Up less.  We need to win games,  the seniors is no longer about  gifting development games to kids. 

Tend to agree. SPS has had a very kind run. Avoided the axe I reckon at least 5 times in his career.

Enough is enough.


Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood - crashlander - 03-19-2021

(03-19-2021, 06:10 AM)kruddler link Wrote:I think the time has come with SPS and biting the bullet.....move him out of defence!
I have not been so negative about SPS, but with some young defenders coming up, and a good one in Newman available soon, it might be time to give him a different job. That way we can see if he can be the player we need him to be.

(03-19-2021, 06:10 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Put SPS further up the ground and let him kick at goal, not 2m in front of mids in the centre of the ground.
Having learnt a bit about the negative side of the game in the last couple of years, it could be very interesting seeing him trying to kick goals. Having him swap in the middle with Jack Martin could also be interesting.


Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood - crashlander - 03-19-2021

(03-19-2021, 08:35 AM)Professer E link Wrote:No he doesn't deserve an extended run.  He made critical errors that cost goals, we can't carry blokes like that.  He can learn in the twos,  and if he shows sustained form he can come in but given last nights showing Cottrell or Carroll can play wing,  and quite frankly are probably going to have more impact and c$@'! Up less.  We need to win games,  the seniors is no longer about  gifting development games to kids. 
Cottrell must be close. He was very good in the 2's. Carroll could use some time on the wing like Sam Walsh did two years ago. Certainly they both run harder than SPS has been doing.