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Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda - IvanAwfulbigone - 07-02-2020
(07-02-2020, 12:12 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:The Aints beat Pittonet, tagged Cripps out of it, held Doc and negated Martin. All over.
Yep, out-coached. We're wasting another year because, even though this season will have an asterix, it's a bit like those lightning premierships you used to play as a kid - were a great chance for lesser teams to "fluke" the pennant. Not gonna be us, I'm afraid.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda - Professer E - 07-02-2020
Our second tier players are very average at best. That's why we are at best an average side. Not convinced that this group of "kids" is going to make it. So many ineffectual players, did some of them even go out on the ground FFS?
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda - Spanner_smf2_import2 - 07-02-2020
(07-02-2020, 12:11 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Fwd line was at its shambolic best. I'm now convinced, H and Gov are spuds. Bottom line is, they kick em, Carlton dont...again. Did people actually think they'd win 3 in a row, lol.
Just this. What people see in Harry is beyond me. At least McGovern can kick when he gets it. Harry, the few times he does actually get it, either shanks it or turns it over. He's also paddle hands. Hands so stuff it's impossible to mark the ball. He's always double grabbing, it's never clean!
Jones is another one. Should be instructed to never take on a risky kick. How many times has he killed momentum with one of across the ground kicks which ends up being a monumental turn over.
Just screw this club. The industry joke for 20 years and counting.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda - Micky0 - 07-02-2020
I was so angry through that game. Just dumb dumb dumb mistakes, how many stupid turnovers resulted in goals for them? Just not acceptable.
McG shits me, H I have nfi what he did except fall over a lot.
The one big positive is Jack is just about my favourite player now, already. He’s smart, hard working - I think it was in the third quarter he willed himself into the contest over and over again. That’s Cripps-like. Finally we have another him, now if we could get some of the others to wake up and get in there.
Whats thoughts on Samo?
And the umpiring was incredibly one sided. No that didn’t cost us the game but fack me there was some bizarre calls and non calls.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-02-2020
Steele always makes Cripps struggle...forget the last part of the game that was junk time and the Saints had throttled back...
Cripps should have started at Full Forward with Eddie and the rest clear out...
Geary on Docherty was a good move, well played Ratten...
Marshall is an athletic kid and Pittonet is more your stand and deliver type ruckman, Levi was useless and Harry even worse but Levi I will cut slack too though as he has been good this season and everyone plays a bad game.
McGovern needs dropping and doesnt suit our setup, but we are stuck with him not only didnt he work hard enough but his man was BOG to half time.
Martin was our best player by a mile and carried the team early....Setterfield and Gibbons battled but dont have the class to match it with the real quality mids and are very lightweight in terms of being physical to opposing players and being able to take over from Cripps.
Newnes has disappointed and Cuningham reverted to his natural state in the wild and was MIA.
Eddie has the smarts but has lost the pace and Butlers speed down the other end was express in comparison.
The lack of physicality in our game is terrible, players choosing to bump bcuase they dont want to risk injury by tackling and just the way the Stkilda bigger bodies menaced our smaller framed players. Cripps still has no help and we dont have enough muscle around the ball to compete when he is held.
Walsh was ok but his disposal needs work but at least he competes...
Murphy and Simpson are finished and Ed Curnow isnt far behind them.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda - 31Tommys_barber - 07-02-2020
They couldn’t play any better, the ball bounced there way, free kicks went there way, we gave them 5 goals in backline errors they gave us none, we were flat and had lots of passengers..................
Yet we lost by 3 goals! HOW?
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda - Gointocarlton - 07-02-2020
(07-02-2020, 12:25 PM)Micky0 link Wrote:I was so angry through that game. Just dumb dumb dumb mistakes, how many stupid turnovers resulted in goals for them? Just not acceptable.Samo is the other I think offers nothing all to often. Just coasts along every week not really doing much. If they extend the legal kick distance from 15m to 20m, he is in strife.
McG craps me, H I have nfi what he did except fall over a lot.
The one big positive is Jack is just about my favourite player now, already. He’s smart, hard working - I think it was in the third quarter he willed himself into the contest over and over again. That’s Cripps-like. Finally we have another him, now if we could get some of the others to wake up and get in there.
Whats thoughts on Samo?
And the umpiring was incredibly one sided. No that didn’t cost us the game but fack me there was some bizarre calls and non calls.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda - Professer E - 07-02-2020
Stocker and the mids on the rookie list like Honey need exposure. Newnes, Fish, Setterfield aren't doing it.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda - Spanner_smf2_import2 - 07-02-2020
(07-02-2020, 12:25 PM)Micky0 link Wrote:Whats thoughts on Samo?
Just a second tier hack. So out of his depth it's embarassing. That turn over in the middle of the ground was laughable. He and Plowman try to out do each other weekly on the most embarassing defensive effort coupled with a major turn over to cause a momentum change in the game.
You can set your watch to it. These blokes really should be renamed to "Atomic Clocks". Fuckin joke...
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda - JonDorotich - 07-02-2020
We looked very sluggish from the outset and if we were playing a top side this would have been 10 goals plus.
Only Martin, Cripps, Setterfield, Gibbons, Weitering and maybe Cunningham can hold their head high.
Lots for Teague to sort out
Defence
- Docherty may be great running out of defence but allowing Geary to kick multiple goals is unforgivable
- two brain fade switches from Jones
- Plowman’s attempt to touch the ball was hard to watch
-SPS is not a natural defender and lacks intensity and his touch was off again.
- Simpson getting on
- Williamson sloppy disposal/tripping over his own feet
Middle
- Pittonet was soundly beaten
- Murphy picks and chooses
- Newnes not good enough
- Walsh out of sorts
Forwards
- 0 output from McGovern, Casboult, Mackay
- Betts absent after quarter time
- Philp not ready
All hard to watch
Where to from here ?