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Re: Tayla Harris immortalised - LP - 09-12-2019
(09-11-2019, 10:17 PM)Micky0 link Wrote:Disagree - with this type of stuff, you need to call it out quick smart and turn it back on the perps of such things - they're the ones that'll look foolish now more than ever.
While I agree I think her strong reaction and the overt public support was enough short term.
The statue might just give her haters some extra fuel, or even push the more radical haters towards more extreme measures. I think in this regard we can't just think about redressing the issue with the offenders, we have to think about how it can potentially affect Tayla. Just because she is iconic relating to this issue, doesn't mean she is impervious or superhuman! It's not at all a given that the haters will all shrink in the public spotlight, some of them may well be genuine misogynists or homophobes!
From another angle, one might even say the artist has been a little bit opportunistic, given I believe it wasn't even initially commissioned. Thankfully it's not a yellow peril but I'd hate it to end up the same way without public support for a home, it could well do so though and that would leave Tayla in line for further derision!
I don't know where it should be housed long term. Our city put that stupid Girl and Bull rubbish up under sponsorship in a prime location, something which is a utter fantasy constructed for commercial purposes! At least Tayla and her history is real, not imaginary!
PS: Much of the debate deriding the statue is based on Tayla's lack of sporting achievements, and that is fair enough she isn't a sporting great by a long margin. FWIW, not even Erin Philips deserves a statue at this stage. But Tayla's statue isn't about sport!
Re: Tayla Harris immortalised - Tragic - 09-12-2019
(09-11-2019, 10:53 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Ive seen a lot of backlash regarding this image.
The usual what has she done, played 22 games of a sport blah blah blah.
Someone like Nova Perris is more worthy rah rah rah.
I wrote this response to a facebook post about it:
For those who think this isnt worthy of a statue, think again. This image is a symbol that transcends sport. It represents the method of standing up to online bullying and doing so with grace. It is a beacon of hope to budding young female athletes. This is not about displaying football. Or women in football. It's about celebrating a female who stood up for herself in an appropriate way, challenging ideals, inspiring people to be better and setting better standards for our society. Yes, any other female athlete would have been worthy of a statue but few would resonate with the internet generation like this one when you consider the controversy that followed this photo of this kick.
eggsackery Thry. It doesn't need to even stand anywhere near a sporting ground imo. more power to her and the females we share this planet with.
Re: Tayla Harris immortalised - kruddler - 09-12-2019
(09-11-2019, 10:58 PM)malo link Wrote:I'm a little bit hmmm about the location more than the actual statue (which I think is fantastic).
I'd have thought that located either around Princes Park, or with other statues of sporting greats in the MCG precinct would have been more appropriate. Although maybe the decision to locate it here was a deliberate one to sort of take it a step away from the pure sporting angle & move it into a social comment area. Still don't know if that works for me.
Maybe this is not intended to be the final location.
Its not.
It will be at Fed square for a month, initially, then its final destination is unknown at this stage.
Fed square is a good initial starting point as it will probably be seen by more people than any other location would've been.
As for statues around the MCG, those statues are there because of the efforts those people put in, specifically, at the MCG in terms of sporting prowess. Despite Taylas ability, i'm not sure she's even played on the MCG. Regardless, i'm not sure her name is even on the statue as its got very little to do with her ability, rather the story/movement that image represents.
Re: Tayla Harris immortalised - DJC - 09-12-2019
(09-11-2019, 10:53 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Ive seen a lot of backlash regarding this image.
The usual what has she done, played 22 games of a sport blah blah blah.
Someone like Nova Perris is more worthy rah rah rah.
I wrote this response to a facebook post about it:
For those who think this isnt worthy of a statue, think again. This image is a symbol that transcends sport. It represents the method of standing up to online bullying and doing so with grace. It is a beacon of hope to budding young female athletes. This is not about displaying football. Or women in football. It's about celebrating a female who stood up for herself in an appropriate way, challenging ideals, inspiring people to be better and setting better standards for our society. Yes, any other female athlete would have been worthy of a statue but few would resonate with the internet generation like this one when you consider the controversy that followed this photo of this kick.
Absolutely!
Re: Tayla Harris immortalised - LoveNavy - 09-12-2019
Tayla represented by the statue speaks of a woman who speaks out.
Tayla's actions propelled by public support is a contemporary example of leadership. Leadership that enables social change.
Football in this instance is merely the occasion from which this emerged.
Well done Tayla.
Re: Tayla Harris immortalised - townsendcalling - 09-12-2019
Don’t have a problem at all with the statue and the symbolism of but I think that it could have been held back until the heat is right out of the discussion. It would have been like creating the Nicky Winmar statue 6 months after his controversial stand. This would have been a lot more appropriate as a 10 year anniversary symbol after AFLW was well and truly entrenched. Just a bit too early.
Re: Tayla Harris immortalised - kruddler - 09-12-2019
(09-12-2019, 12:04 PM)townsendcalling link Wrote:Don’t have a problem at all with the statue and the symbolism of but I think that it could have been held back until the heat is right out of the discussion. It would have been like creating the Nicky Winmar statue 6 months after his controversial stand. This would have been a lot more appropriate as a 10 year anniversary symbol after AFLW was well and truly entrenched. Just a bit too early.
Too early? You want to wait until the whole thing has died down and people have forgotten about it?
Strike while the iron is hot.
This is about change, and highlighting that, again, continues to push for change and build on the momentum that this whole incident started.
Its an iconic image that is full of momentum and should be used to further that momentum.
Waiting simply dilutes the cause.
Re: Tayla Harris immortalised - Thryleon - 09-12-2019
People need to stop thinking of this as a women's issue and start connecting it to trolling and online bullying.
It's not about women. It's about teaching youth resilience and to drown out internet bullying.
It's much more relevant than any discussion about females in sport.
Re: Tayla Harris immortalised - DJC - 09-12-2019
(09-12-2019, 12:10 PM)kruddler link Wrote:Too early? You want to wait until the whole thing has died down and people have forgotten about it?
Strike while the iron is hot.
This is about change, and highlighting that, again, continues to push for change and build on the momentum that this whole incident started.
Its an iconic image that is full of momentum and should be used to further that momentum.
Waiting simply dilutes the cause.
Absolutely!
It may expose some apologists for the farkwits who trolled Tayla but the backlash is insignificant as we progress to the point where our sisters, daughters and granddaughters don’t have to put up with this garbage.
Re: Tayla Harris immortalised - DJC - 09-12-2019
(09-12-2019, 12:11 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:People need to stop thinking of this as a women's issue and start connecting it to trolling and online bullying.
It's not about women. It's about teaching youth resilience and to drown out internet bullying.
It's much more relevant than any discussion about females in sport.
Sorry Thry but it is definitely a women’s issue.
Of course trolling and online bullying is part of it, but the crux of the matter is the sexual objectification of a female athlete ... and that is not acceptable.