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Re: Flying the Flag - PaulP - 05-24-2019

(05-24-2019, 03:06 AM)JonHenry link Wrote:Totally agree Paul, but I was told that was thuggish behaviour and belongs only in the NRL.

Funny thing is, nearly all other sides do it to us.
Sick to farking death of it.

We look so passive its disgusting.

I've mentioned before (which I say a lot these days), that I don't want us to be the aggressors, I want us to have a reputation that means other clubs simply won't even try it on, because they know if they do they will get it back 10 fold, like players don't bother having a go at Hodge, because it's a waste of time.


Re: Flying the Flag - Mantis - 05-24-2019

Flyboy. This is a good question. Maybe the players haven’t been buying what he is selling.


Re: Flying the Flag - Woodstock - 05-24-2019

I’m sure I posted this a couple of years ago. It’s still relevant.

The ‘99’ Call on the British Lions Tour to South Africa many years ago by my countryman, Willie John McBride, who was the Captain of the Tour and how he dealt with dirty play against his Team. A real old school Leader. Remember, Union was still amateur back then.

https://youtu.be/hU-c4YyEVMY

It’s a great wee video of him telling the story of how he came up with it. I think it has a place in today’s game. No matter what bleeding heart, group think left wingers say. It’s a contact sport and sometimes lines need to be drawn. Anyway have a watch of it.


Re: Flying the Flag - LP - 05-24-2019

(05-24-2019, 03:06 AM)JonHenry link Wrote:Totally agree Paul, but I was told that was thuggish behaviour and belongs only in the NRL.

Funny thing is, nearly all other sides do it to us.
Sick to farking death of it.

We look so passive its disgusting.

You've confused flying the flag with Paul Gallen Cheap Shot Bastardry again!

They are talking about responding when some Gallen type thug hands it out or tries to, not becoming a Gallen!

We've been bullied twice in three weeks, and the best why to deal with bullies is to stand up to them in unison!

Further, in my opinion, that applies to the club in it's public media face as well!

Nobody voluntarily gives or treats you with respect in the AFL, you've got to take it or earn it, but it won't ever be home delivered!


Re: Flying the Flag - LP - 05-24-2019

(05-24-2019, 03:15 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:The Hawks have never been soft, one could say they often border on dirty (but get away with it)?

One would have thought Bolts would have brought a similar mind set across?

It's wasn't ever the babies or lightweights flying the flag at the Dawks, it was Hodge, Franklin, Roughead, Dew, Brown, Renouf, Bailey, Lewis, Gibson, Lake, McEvoy, etc., etc..


Re: Flying the Flag - deags - 05-24-2019

It is so interesting to read this debate on here.
We had a player named Waite a few years back. He was regularly the only bloke to "fly the flag" in a navy guernsey.
He got suspended for doing it and the outcry against him was palpable.


Re: Flying the Flag - PaulP - 05-24-2019

(05-24-2019, 03:36 AM)Woodstock link Wrote:I’m sure I posted this a couple of years ago. It’s still relevant.

The ‘99’ Call on the British Lions Tour to South Africa many years ago by my countryman, Willie John McBride, who was the Captain of the Tour and how he dealt with dirty play against his Team. A real old school Leader. Remember, Union was still amateur back then.

https://youtu.be/hU-c4YyEVMY

It’s a great wee video of him telling the story of how he came up with it. I think it has a place in today’s game. No matter what bleeding heart, group think left wingers say. It’s a contact sport and sometimes lines need to be drawn. Anyway have a watch of it.

I'm a bleeding heart leftie. I did watch it, and that's precisely the sort of thing I referred to earlier. Not to be the aggressors, but be ready to send a message such that it doesn't happen again. i.e play as hard as you like, but no lining up our blokes to try and hurt. There's plenty of contact in our sport as it is. Barely a minute passes in any AFL match when there isn't hard contact of some type.


Re: Flying the Flag - LP - 05-24-2019

(05-24-2019, 03:51 AM)deags link Wrote:It is so interesting to read this debate on here.
We had a player named Waite a few years back. He was regularly the only bloke to "fly the flag" in a navy guernsey.
He got suspended for doing it and the outcry against him was palpable.

In the media, and from a deash1t coach who kept telling us he had the player's backs, I don't think fans ever gave a flying feck!


Re: Flying the Flag - deags - 05-24-2019

I'm not going to go trawling for the thread, but there was plenty of gusto on this forum at the time.



Re: Flying the Flag - LP - 05-24-2019

(05-24-2019, 03:52 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I'm a bleeding heart leftie. I did watch it, and that's precisely the sort of thing I referred to earlier. Not to be the aggressors, but be ready to send a message such that it doesn't happen again. i.e play as hard as you like, but no lining up our blokes to try and hurt. There's plenty of contact in our sport as it is. Barely a minute passes in any AFL match when there isn't hard contact of some type.

That is exactly what Cripps was on about, standing up when it happens to team-mates, nobody has suggested handing it out unprovoked.

We do not want snipers!