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Re: FFA shooting itself in the foot AGAIN - DJC - 01-22-2019
(01-21-2019, 11:28 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:The Kylie minogue one.
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Re: FFA shooting itself in the foot AGAIN - madbluboy - 12-17-2022
Victory supporters attacked the City keeper. Game called off.
Re: FFA shooting itself in the foot AGAIN - DJC - 12-18-2022
(12-17-2022, 10:07 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Victory supporters attacked the City keeper. Game called off.
A little more to it than that.
Supporters from both teams were going to stage a walkout in protest at Football Australia's decision to sell the next three grand finals to Sydney. Supporters did that at Mariners and Newcastle games and Sydney FC supporters boycotted the Mariners game.
However, the protest at the Victory-City game didn't go according to plan with unruly behaviour from the start. Reading between the lines, it seems that some folk used the protest as an opportunity to indulge in anti-social, unlawful and violent behaviour; "cruisin' for a bruisin'" as we used to say.
Popular sports in Australia are notable for remarkably good crowd behaviour. Throwing flares, invading the pitch and assaulting/injuring players and officials is abhorrent and must be stamped out.
Re: FFA shooting itself in the foot AGAIN - Thryleon - 12-18-2022
(12-17-2022, 10:07 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Victory supporters attacked the City keeper. Game called off.so much for getting rid of the ethnics. Everything old is new again.
Re: FFA shooting itself in the foot AGAIN - LP - 12-18-2022
(12-18-2022, 11:57 AM)DJC date Wrote:Popular sports in Australia are notable for remarkably good crowd behaviour. Throwing flares, invading the pitch and assaulting/injuring players and officials is abhorrent and must be stamped out.Yep, that is bullcrap behaviour that has gone on too long.
Rubber bullets and tazers from now on, but only after a year or two playing without crowds to let them all cool off.
I'd also ban anyone U18 from attending games, to free up authorities to be a bit more authoritarian. I'm thinking dogs, truncheons, riot shields and the like from the good old days of the EPL!
I think either the States or the Feds should fine the FA, and I mean seriously fine them 7 or 8 figures to force them to lift their game! I write that because the problem isn't just caused by the fans, it's almost encouraged by the authorities. The bosses grin like idiots when someone asks them formally about flares or venue damage, they take it as a joke question.
The same spoilt brat fans going to or leaving games destroy station platforms, buses and trains, they cost the public more than the sport is earning locally.
Re: FFA shooting itself in the foot AGAIN - Thryleon - 12-18-2022
(12-18-2022, 12:07 PM)LP link Wrote:Yep, that is bullcrap behaviour that has gone on too long.
Rubber bullets and tazers from now on, but only after a year or two playing without crowds to let them all cool off.
I'd also ban anyone U18 from attending games, to free up authorities to be a bit more authoritarian. I'm thinking dogs, truncheons, riot shields and the like from the good old days of the EPL!
I think either the States or the Feds should fine the FA, and I mean seriously fine them 7 or 8 figures to force them to lift their game! I write that because the problem isn't just caused by the fans, it's almost encouraged by the authorities. The bosses grin like idiots when someone asks them formally about flares or venue damage, they take it as a joke question.
The same spoilt brat fans going to or leaving games destroy station platforms, buses and trains, they cost the public more than the sport is earning locally.
Gone on too long?
How?
Ive seen more actual fisticuffs at the AFL than I have at the soccer, admittedly havent attend a soccer game in a long time and the last few I have were exhibitions for visiting teams from overseas.
Re: FFA shooting itself in the foot AGAIN - Professer E - 12-18-2022
Sorry, but the exhibited behaviour is indefensible at all levels and comparing other sports to what happened isn't a sound argument. What's with these bloody flares anyways? Never seen one of those at the AFL. Fancy blaming a player for what happened by pinging one back!?! There's an elephant in the room that won't be addressed - there's a section of these supporter bases that just doesn't get it. Never have, never will. It lead to clubs getting shut down in the past and I wonder if Victory, among others, is being seriously looked at.
Re: FFA shooting itself in the foot AGAIN - Gointocarlton - 12-18-2022
(12-18-2022, 11:25 PM)Professer E link Wrote:Sorry, but the exhibited behaviour is indefensible at all levels and comparing other sports to what happened isn't a sound argument. What's with these bloody flares anyways? Never seen one of those at the AFL. Fancy blaming a player for what happened by pinging one back!?! There's an elephant in the room that won't be addressed - there's a section of these supporter bases that just doesn't get it. Never have, never will. It lead to clubs getting shut down in the past and I wonder if Victory, among others, is being seriously looked at.You're right the behaviour was indefensible on every level but I will say the keeper should not have tossed the flare back into the crowd, that was pure stupidity on his part and should be sanctioned.
The players should all agree on a new rule that from now on, first sign of a flare and they run off the ground and the game is cancelled and made null and void (ie scores cancelled as the crowd could use it to an advantage). I would then reschedule the game with no crowd (competing teams to foot the bill).
Re: FFA shooting itself in the foot AGAIN - DJC - 12-19-2022
(12-18-2022, 11:32 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:You're right the behaviour was indefensible on every level but I will say the keeper should not have tossed the flare back into the crowd, that was pure stupidity on his part and should be sanctioned.
The players should all agree on a new rule that from now on, first sign of a flare and they run off the ground and the game is cancelled and made null and void (ie scores cancelled as the crowd could use it to an advantage). I would then reschedule the game with no crowd (competing teams to foot the bill).
Tossing the flare into the crowd was foolish and dangerous. Players should have strict instructions on what to do when flares are thrown onto the ground and tossing them back shouldn't be an option. Leaving the field when a flare is set off may encourage the nutters to deliberately sabotage games but your suggestion is worth a try G2C.
Listening to the wireless this morning was enlightening. Apparently, after many supporters had left, those remaining were families with young children who stayed in the hope that the game would re-commence. It's not fair to those young soccer fans that the airheads with axes to grind spoil the game and, potentially, the competition, for them.
Surely flares can be detected during the entry security checks and action taken against the carriers. It's an offence to discharge a distress flare inappropriately and, if it's not already, it should be an offence to be in possession of a distress flare other than for its intended purpose. One of the problems is that distress flares have an expiry date and there's not mechanism for returning expired flares. That means that there is an ever-increasing quantity of flares and it's inevitable that some will end up in the wrong hands.
Re: FFA shooting itself in the foot AGAIN - LP - 12-19-2022
(12-19-2022, 12:06 AM)DJC date Wrote:Listening to the wireless this morning was enlightening. Apparently, after many supporters had left, those remaining were families with young children who stayed in the hope that the game would re-commence. It's not fair to those young soccer fans that the airheads with axes to grind spoil the game and, potentially, the competition, for them.I agree, some of the kids might have been at their first ever game, some might have been getting an early Christmas present as a treat, and those dumb fecks rioting in the crowd stuffed it up for the kids!
in my opinion even more reason to throw the book at the rioters, and yes they were rioters plain and simple!