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Re: 2018 Rd 3: Pre game Palaver; Carlton vs. Collingwood - crashlander - 03-31-2018

We need Kreuzer to be fit, but that is questionable. If he doesn't come up, then we need to play either Lobbe or Phillips. We can't go into another game against a top ruckman with only Casboult.

Weitering needs to be dropped. He needs a period of time in the VFL to learn what he needs to do, to gain his confidence and to start playing to his strengths instead of his weaknesses.
The time in the VFL did Silvagni no harm, as he kicked 3 goals. Now to keep it going for a few more weeks.

It would be very handy to have Kennedy and Lang ready to play as well. Nick Graham deserves a senior game.

Byrne will probably miss through injury when he was finally finding a little form. But he needs game time. In the VFL if nothing else.
Polson didn't have a great game. He'll probably be dropped. He needs to get 25 - 30 possessions each week in the VFL, like Kerridge and Graham.
Cuningham got the ball enough, but his decision making was ordinary. He might stay because he was getting the ball, but he made some shocking mistakes.


Re: 2018 Rd 3: Pre game Palaver; Carlton vs. Collingwood - flyboy77 - 03-31-2018

TDK plays, if need be....

Ready? Not relevant....he's tough, seen his brothers?

Polson, Dow and Cuners.....back to the 2s. Kerridge in, Graham in.....

Polson and Dow simply are no where near ready. Should not have been picked today.

Dow is onlt getting damaged playing now.


Re: 2018 Rd 3: Pre game Palaver; Carlton vs. Collingwood - JonDorotich - 03-31-2018

Mullet, OShea, Byrne, Polson, Lamb - it’s quite simple, if 3 or more of theses guys play, we’ll almost certainly lose. And, Cunningham, Garlett and Weitering might as well be lumped in with that group on current form. That’s 8 of the starting 22 before you even get to game plan and players out of position.

The sooner that Silvagni, Kennedy, Lang, Kreuzer, Williamson find their way into the team the better.

Weitering is the really frustrating one  - I know that he’s young but he lacks aggession and he needs to be a lot tougher than he is.. Its all betweeen the ears with him.


Re: 2018 Rd 3: Pre game Palaver; Carlton vs. Collingwood - cookie2 - 03-31-2018

Weitering is my major concern considering he was/is one of our most valuable assets. He currently looks mentally shot as others have highlighted. He needs to be rehabilitated in the 2s where he can regain confidence and composure and return to the seniors in a role where he can excel and I mean in defence. It would be an absolute tragedy if we stuff up his development and an indictement on our club.


Re: 2018 Rd 3: Pre game Palaver; Carlton vs. Collingwood - kruddler - 03-31-2018

If our effort against Gold Coast isn't enough to start a bit of a shake up of the team, i don't know what is.

Time for a spell...
1. Weitering. Liability 2 weeks in a row. He is so much better than he has been playing, give him a spell.
2. Dow. You've had a taste of it. its been too quick for you. Go back and get 30 in the VFL to remind yourself you can and will dominate this game in the future.
3. Bryne. Potentially injured anyway, but lacking football nous it appears. Heart is in it, but ability is lacking.
4. Mullet. Your smooth left foot seems to have disappeared somewhat over the summer. 28 touches is good, 22 kicks...but 57% DE? Need to be better. WIll probably be spared because of those above him.

Time for the call-up....
1. Jack Silvagni. Been 'average' in form, not in intensity. Was wrong to drop him and bring in some more defenders. Jack offers more up forward than Weitering does....and a lot more effort too.
2. McKay. Might not be banging the door down, but can't be any worse than what we've displayed up forward by the 'others' trying to fill a gap.
3. Alex Silvagni. As with his cousin, effort is unconditional. Might be worth playing him up forward to teach the young bucks a few tricks, and push some defenders around. Given his speed and marking ability, a role on the wing could be an option.
4. Willo. He can take Byrnes spot in defense. We need more run and carry.


Now i'm not suggesting all of these players should come in for this week, but at least 3 outs, and 2 ins from that list is required. The rest depends on who is fit - Kreuzer, Kennedy etc


Re: 2018 Rd 3: Pre game Palaver; Carlton vs. Collingwood - PaulP - 04-01-2018

Thankfully, the Pies have no capable, big key forwards, so at least in this part of the ground, we should have a chance of breaking even and getting some half decent match ups.

I've no idea how much money they have in their piggy bank, but they must be seriously thinking of offering Tom Lynch a Buddy type contract.


Re: 2018 Rd 3: Pre game Palaver; Carlton vs. Collingwood - kruddler - 04-01-2018

(04-01-2018, 01:38 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Thankfully, the Pies have no capable, big key forwards, so at least in this part of the ground, we should have a chance of breaking even and getting some half decent match ups.

...but we'll give them the upper hand by playing 5 key backs without matchups for them.  :-\


Re: 2018 Rd 3: Pre game Palaver; Carlton vs. Collingwood - PaulP - 04-01-2018

(04-01-2018, 01:40 AM)kruddler link Wrote:...but we'll give them the upper hand by playing 5 key backs without matchups for them.  :-\

Well, if we finally have a chance of getting good match ups, and the MC are stubborn or just dumb, then we deserve every hiding that we cop.


Re: 2018 Rd 3: Pre game Palaver; Carlton vs. Collingwood - blue4life - 04-01-2018

I'd stick with Weitering for now, we know that he can play but he's being crowded by our top heavy defence.
Polson must go and I'd drop O'Shea as well, not because he was particularly bad but because we need run in our back half.
Kreuzer, Silvagni and McKay should all play, our front 6 was impotent yesterday and we must add some scoring power, Lamb can make way.
I'd like to see young O'Brien get a game soon as well but I'm not sure how well he's been going in the Magoos.


Re: 2018 Rd 3: Pre game Palaver; Carlton vs. Collingwood - townsendcalling - 04-01-2018

Again, with the shape that Collingwood are in, if Krooz and Kennedy can return, we should be more than competitive. No Moore, possibly no Reid, Trelor only half fit, and Mason Cox returning, we must be a chance.