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Re: Katie Brennan - LP - 03-23-2018
Unfortunately the "Movementeers" won't see it like that, they'll argue that women have power over their own bodies and therefore the right to put themselves in harms way as they see fit.
Then the "Movementeers" will go back to sipping lattes in Fitroy St, or studying for another degree with tax payer funds, until a girl gets a brain injury in AFLW at which time they'll role up and sue the AFL for failing it's duty of care.
All because it's such an injustice, it seems!
But isn't Brennan playing in an all female competition, and the rules are relative to every other female in the competition, but not strictly relevant to the AFL rules. That seems to be the point some are getting to;
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-v-aflw-the-battle-to-build-a-better-women-s-league-20180323-p4z5vh.html
Re: Katie Brennan - madbluboy - 03-23-2018
So we want girls to play footy but not real footy?
Re: Katie Brennan - PaulP - 03-23-2018
(03-23-2018, 05:34 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:So we want girls to play footy but not real footy?
Most aspects of culture and society exits in an evolving, dynamic context. What was acceptable in men's footy 50 years ago is not tolerated now. That doesn't mean today's male players are wusses.
The women should a play a game that treads a sensible line between being close to the men's game but tailored to them. We have enormous amounts of knowledge, information etc. regarding all aspects of people's health and well being - why not use it ?
Re: Katie Brennan - DJC - 03-23-2018
(03-23-2018, 05:34 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:So we want girls to play footy but not real footy?
Exactly!
Sexual dimorphism is a thing with Homo sapiens and AFLW must be tailored to suit female characteristics; the smaller ball is one measure and minimising head injuries is another.
Re: Katie Brennan - kruddler - 03-23-2018
(03-23-2018, 05:48 AM)DJC link Wrote:Exactly!
Sexual dimorphism is a thing with Homo sapiens and AFLW must be tailored to suit female characteristics; the smaller ball is one measure and minimising head injuries is another.
The AFL are minimising head injuries in the mens game too.
The AFL are simply scaling everything from the mens game to the shorter season of the womens game.
Normally its 3 strikes over a 22 game season.
Its 2 for the women over a 7 game season.
That magpie chick who kicking one of the hosking girls in the vagina got 2 (3?) weeks, in the mens game it would've been 4 or 5.
Its unfortunate for Katie, but its got nothing to do with what sex she is.
Re: Katie Brennan - DJC - 03-23-2018
(03-23-2018, 06:46 AM)kruddler link Wrote:The AFL are minimising head injuries in the mens game too.
The AFL are simply scaling everything from the mens game to the shorter season of the womens game.
Normally its 3 strikes over a 22 game season.
Its 2 for the women over a 7 game season.
That magpie chick who kicking one of the hosking girls in the vagina got 2 (3?) weeks, in the mens game it would've been 4 or 5.
Its unfortunate for Katie, but its got nothing to do with what sex she is.
So the smaller footy used in AFLW is because the game is shorter and not because women have smaller hands? ;D
The whole point of the appeal against the penalty is that it is more severe than would be applied to a male AFL player. In other words, AFLW tribunal penalties are intended to reduce incidents that could result in concussions suffered by AFLW players because women are more susceptible to concussion and will suffer from the consequences.
Re: Katie Brennan - LP - 03-23-2018
(03-23-2018, 12:10 PM)DJC link Wrote:So the smaller footy used in AFLW is because the game is shorter and not because women have smaller hands? ;D
Actually, I heard it was put into use to increase the kicking distances.
Re: Katie Brennan - DJC - 03-23-2018
(03-23-2018, 12:17 PM)LP link Wrote:Actually, I heard it was put into use to increase the kicking distances.
Physics would seem to argue against that LP.
I’m sure that there was a discussion back at the start of the season about the optimum size of the footy for AFLW.
Women’s basketball uses a smaller ball to facilitate better ball handling and I would be very surprised if AFLW is any different. But what’s logic got to do with it?
Re: Katie Brennan - LP - 03-23-2018
(03-23-2018, 12:31 PM)DJC link Wrote:Physics would seem to argue against that LP.
It's not a simple ballistic solution.
AFL Size 5 = 72cm x 54cm.
AFLW Size 4.5 = 71cm x 52cm.
Junior Male / New AFLW Size 4 = 70cm x 52cm.
The 54 / 52cm circumference reduction only makes a diameter change of 5mm, unless you had the two balls side by side you would barely notice it.
The size difference is trivial, the main effect is caused by reduced footy weight which increases the attainable velocity from the girls less powerful kick.
Re: Katie Brennan - kruddler - 03-23-2018
(03-23-2018, 12:10 PM)DJC link Wrote:So the smaller footy used in AFLW is because the game is shorter and not because women have smaller hands? ;D
The whole point of the appeal against the penalty is that it is more severe than would be applied to a male AFL player. In other words, AFLW tribunal penalties are intended to reduce incidents that could result in concussions suffered by AFLW players because women are more susceptible to concussion and will suffer from the consequences.
If you ask the girls, they prefer the normal footballs too.
Katie Brennan was not suspended for her tackle. The severity of the tackle was not graded differently to the mens.
She got a reprimand for the tackle.
She had a previous reprimand.
In the girls game, 2 reprimands = suspension.
In the mens, 3 reprimands = suspension.
Forget about the force, the concussion etc. Its about the reprimands being 'sexist' as they only get 2 compared to 3. I argue thats for the shorter season length.