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Re: Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game - LP - 12-13-2017
As much as I am an advocate for a strong set of KPPs, I doubt we can have Kreuzer, Jones, Weitering, ACoS, Casboult, McKay, Silvagni, C. Curnow and Cripps all in one team.
Excluding Jones, that is a mighty slow set of players, we'd be run over early if they were not dominant overhead.
The situation is worsened by the lack of significant speed from medium and smalls like Plowman, Marchbank, E.Curnow, Wright, Lamb, Kennedy and SPS. They aren't slow, but they are certainly not fast enough to cover too many big tall slows.
For this reason we might find Fisher, O'Shea or Lang in the starting line up. Personally, I see O'Shea as the ready-made replacement for Docherty.
Hard to argue if they are fit why Cunningham, Williamson or Macreadie don't get a look in, they have shown as much as any of our other young players. Hard to see Byrne getting a run ahead of any of them.
It's going to be interesting to see what we do in 2018, especially if some of the training whispers about who is training with what group are true!
Re: Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game - kruddler - 12-13-2017
(12-13-2017, 03:30 AM)LP link Wrote:As much as I am an advocate for a strong set of KPPs, I doubt we can have Kreuzer, Jones, Weitering, ACoS, Casboult, McKay, Silvagni, C. Curnow and Cripps all in one team.
Excluding Jones, that is a mighty slow set of players, we'd be run over early if they were not dominant overhead.
The situation is worsened by the lack of significant speed from medium and smalls like Plowman, Marchbank, E.Curnow, Wright, Lamb, Kennedy and SPS. They aren't slow, but they are certainly not fast enough to cover too many big tall slows.
For this reason we might find Fisher, O'Shea or Lang in the starting line up. Personally, I see O'Shea as the ready-made replacement for Docherty.
Hard to argue if they are fit why Cunningham, Williamson or Macreadie don't get a look in, they have shown as much as any of our other young players. Hard to see Byrne getting a run ahead of any of them.
It's going to be interesting to see what we do in 2018, especially if some of the training whispers about who is training with what group are true!
The one thing i've been banging on about for years is starting to creep into other peoples conversations more and more....
Where are our forwards and why do we have so many backmen!
Agree on the speed thing, but acos is deceptively quick.
Personally, i rate all of Jones, (Rowe when fit), A. Silvagni, Marchbank, Weitering and Plowman as better than any of our forwards...Curnowfides could certainly outdo them all, but hasn't just yet. BUT, i don't think we can fit all of them in our backline, nor would we want to.
Re: Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game - LP - 12-13-2017
(12-13-2017, 04:26 AM)kruddler link Wrote:The one thing i've been banging on about for years is starting to creep into other peoples conversations more and more....
Where are our forwards and why do we have so many backmen!
Agree on the speed thing, but acos is deceptively quick.
Personally, i rate all of Jones, (Rowe when fit), A. Silvagni, Marchbank, Weitering and Plowman as better than any of our forwards...Curnowfides could certainly outdo them all, but hasn't just yet. BUT, i don't think we can fit all of them in our backline, nor would we want to.
You see, if we still had those "Like" buttons I wouldn't need to post anything to agree!
But I accept those like buttons can be a little disconcerting for some people. ;D
Re: Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game - DJC - 12-13-2017
B Plowman Weitering Simpson
HB O’Shea Jones Marchbank
C Mullett Kennedy Curnow, E
HF Wright Casboult Silvagni, J
F Pickett Curnow, C Petrevski-Seton
R Kreuzer Cripps Murphy
IC Fisher, Thomas, Williamson, McKay
E Cuningham, Garlett, O'Brien
Re: Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game - ElwoodBlues1 - 12-13-2017
(12-13-2017, 05:44 AM)DJC link Wrote:B Plowman Weitering Simpson
HB O’Shea Jones Marchbank
C Mullett Kennedy Curnow, E
HF Wright Casboult Silvagni, J
F Pickett Curnow, C Petrevski-Seton
R Kreuzer Cripps Murphy
IC Fisher, Thomas, Williamson, McKay
E Cuningham, Garlett, O'Brien
Reckon you nailed it DJ but I think Lang might be in for big Harry.....not many would have Thomas in either but like you
I think we will go for some experience over a newbie like Dow initially....
Re: Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game - DJC - 12-13-2017
(12-13-2017, 06:30 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Reckon you nailed it DJ but I think Lang might be in for big Harry.....not many would have Thomas in either but like you
I think we will go for some experience over a newbie like Dow initially....
Harry will have to do well in the pre-season if he's going to play Rd 1 and I hope he does. We need a mobile tall forward to free Charlie to work more up the ground. I think Lang will come in if Harry doesn't get a gig.
I can't see Dow and O'Brien getting a game without first shining in the NBs and Dow is coming off a shoulder reco. Of course, good form in the pre-season could change that and I guess that applies to so many on our list now.
Re: Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game - Gointocarlton - 12-13-2017
(12-13-2017, 12:52 AM)jeza link Wrote:Nearest the pin round 1 team?No Willo? No Chance.
B Byrne, Ciaran Silvagni, Alex ® Plowman, Lachlan
HB Mullett, Aaron Jones, Liam Marchbank, Caleb
C Curnow, Charlie Cripps, Patrick Murphy, Marc
HF Garlett, Jarrod Casboult, Levi Lamb, Jed
F Pickett, Jarrod Weitering, Jacob Silvagni, Jack
R Kreuzer, Matthew Kennedy, Matthew Petrevski-Seton, Sam
IC Dow, Paddy Simpson, Kade Wright, Matthew
Curnow, Edward
E Fisher, Zac Lang, Darcy McKay, Harry
Re: Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game - Gointocarlton - 12-13-2017
(12-13-2017, 05:44 AM)DJC link Wrote:B Plowman Weitering SimpsonNow we're talking DJ. Pretty good side that and close to what I'd name. I think Dow will play round 1 somehow.
HB O’Shea Jones Marchbank
C Mullett Kennedy Curnow, E
HF Wright Casboult Silvagni, J
F Pickett Curnow, C Petrevski-Seton
R Kreuzer Cripps Murphy
IC Fisher, Thomas, Williamson, McKay
E Cuningham, Garlett, O'Brien
Re: Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game - Gointocarlton - 12-13-2017
Here's my attempt. My guess is that there may be some preseason comp bolters but if I had to guess now, I'd guess as follows:
FB Kade Simpson Liam Jones Lachie Plowman
HB Tom Williamson Jacob Weitering Caleb Marchbank
C Ed Curnow Patrick Cripps Sam Petrveski Seton
HF Jarrod Pickett Levi Casboult Charlie Curnow
FF Jack Silvagni Harry McKay Matthew Wright
R Matthew Kreuzer Marc Murphy Matthew Kennedy
INT Paddy Dow Zach Fisher
Darcy Lang Jed Lamb
Emerg Aaron Mullet Dale Thomas Cam Oshea
Re: Rnd 1 Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game - townsendcalling - 12-13-2017
If Richmond play 5 small forwards, our choice of back 6 will be interesting........