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Re: Ben Cousins Jailed - Gointocarlton - 03-30-2017
(03-30-2017, 08:31 AM)kruddler link Wrote:TBH, i'm a bit over the whole cousins thing.Agree, I just feel for his Mum, Dad and sibling(s).
He doesn't want to quit...and continues to be a dick and is making life horrible to those around him.
Lock him up and hope he gets some perspective back. Stop playing it as 'poor Ben'. He made his bed....so stuff him.
Re: Ben Cousins Jailed - Thryleon - 03-30-2017
This really should stop being news.
It feeds his public profile somewhat and keeps him infamous.
He hasn't kicked a ball in years and this is in the realm of gossip now.
Re: Ben Cousins Jailed - cookie2 - 03-30-2017
(03-30-2017, 09:32 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:This really should stop being news.
It feeds his public profile somewhat and keeps him infamous.
He hasn't kicked a ball in years and this is in the realm of gossip now.
Bring in the censor?
Re: Ben Cousins Jailed - Baggers - 03-30-2017
(03-30-2017, 08:31 AM)kruddler link Wrote:TBH, i'm a bit over the whole cousins thing.
He doesn't want to quit...and continues to be a dick and is making life horrible to those around him.
Lock him up and hope he gets some perspective back. Stop playing it as 'poor Ben'. He made his bed....so stuff him.
Mate, I know it seems like that, but you do not understand the illness of addiction. Saying he doesn't want to quit drugs is like saying to someone with asthma that they should just take a deep breath to breathe properly. This is the battle of those of us who work in this area, trying to help people understand that mental illness is the same as a physiological illness... just the brain, not lungs, or pancreas, or kidneys...
Addiction is right there with depression, anxiety... bla bla bla. Maybe if I put it this way... when the ticker plays up, we get pain and numbness... when the lungs play up we get shortness of breath, when the intestines play up we get digestive issues... get the gist? Well, the brain is just another organ in our bod, and when it plays up, when it's chemical balance is disrupted, when its synapses are broken, we get... serious behavior / personality issues.
Addiction is an actual illness. It takes over the sufferers brain. He's not making a choice to be a d1ckhead, his illness is controlling his choices, though, there comes a time when the person has to say, 'I want to fight this illness', which means they have to admit they have it... and when it comes to mental illness we all find it hard to admit such a thing due to social stigma. We've a long way to go re social stigma. E.g. got cancer (physical illness)... oh, sh1t you poor bugger... got depression (mental illness), very, very different story (re response).
Re: Ben Cousins Jailed - DJC - 03-30-2017
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Well explained Baggers!
Re: Ben Cousins Jailed - 31Tommys_barber - 03-30-2017
Wonder if it ever pricks Worsfolds conscience , captained Mainwaring coached Cousins stuck his head in the sand with both. Strong leaders are more than just belting blokes in the back of the head. Allowed Mainwaring to become Cousins party mentor got a flag but at what human cost. Death and addiction sad wasted lives. Hope cousins gets help but in Perth he is still on a huge pedestal..
Re: Ben Cousins Jailed - kruddler - 03-31-2017
(03-30-2017, 11:34 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Mate, I know it seems like that, but you do not understand the illness of addiction. Saying he doesn't want to quit drugs is like saying to someone with asthma that they should just take a deep breath to breathe properly. This is the battle of those of us who work in this area, trying to help people understand that mental illness is the same as a physiological illness... just the brain, not lungs, or pancreas, or kidneys...
Addiction is right there with depression, anxiety... bla bla bla. Maybe if I put it this way... when the ticker plays up, we get pain and numbness... when the lungs play up we get shortness of breath, when the intestines play up we get digestive issues... get the gist? Well, the brain is just another organ in our bod, and when it plays up, when it's chemical balance is disrupted, when its synapses are broken, we get... serious behavior / personality issues.
Addiction is an actual illness. It takes over the sufferers brain. He's not making a choice to be a d1ckhead, his illness is controlling his choices, though, there comes a time when the person has to say, 'I want to fight this illness', which means they have to admit they have it... and when it comes to mental illness we all find it hard to admit such a thing due to social stigma. We've a long way to go re social stigma. E.g. got cancer (physical illness)... oh, sh1t you poor bugger... got depression (mental illness), very, very different story (re response).
Look, there is a huge slippery slope we can open up here.
A serial killer probably has a few things wrong with his brain too. Doesn't mean i have any sympathy for him though.
Re: Ben Cousins Jailed - Professer E - 03-31-2017
It beggars belief that those in charge didn't know what was going on, and methinks a blind eye was turned because the on field results were good.
The AFL should have stepped in a taken charge but they don't have the cojones. I realise that class A drugs are metabolized quickly, but seriously, all those tests and no positives? Really?
Would have been nice for the AFL if it all went away, but once Pandora's box is opened...
Re: Ben Cousins Jailed - Gointocarlton - 08-22-2018
Ben Cousins arrested and remanded in custody again. Cousins faces 16 charges including aggravated burglary, aggravated stalking and possessing a prohibited drug with intent to sell or supply.
Poor bugger, his life is a mess and sadly he is probably safest in jail.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ben-cousins-arrested-on-drug-charges-in-perth/news-story/8d04cd17483f7f44d9d57112c4113ad7
Re: Ben Cousins Jailed - PaulP - 08-22-2018
He seems either unable or unwilling to learn from his past misdemeanours.
There is only so much that other people can do to help a person. At some point, that person must do their bit to contribute to the process. It's just not possible any other way.
Sad story - his parents and other loved ones must be at their wits end - he seems almost beyond repair.