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Re: 2017 Rd 2 Pre Game Panic Carlton vs Melbourne - Gointocarlton - 03-24-2017
There was a goal kicked by Rich at the city end last night from a boundary throw in during the first qtr. From memory, and I was at the opposite end of the ground, the Rich ruckman took it easily, after Cas stumbled cluelessly towards the boundary line, and either snapped the goal or hacked it fwd and someone else snapped it. It was an example of how poor Cas's ruck craft is and how little he imposes himself physically on a contest. If he cant ruck, cant impose himself physically and cant kick straight, his days are well and truly numbered. Whilst Phillips is injured, we don't have much choice and Gorringe is as soft as butter IMO. Its a problem area that I dont think we can rectify in the immediate future.
Re: 2017 Rd 2 Pre Game Panic Carlton vs Melbourne - cookie2 - 03-24-2017
(03-24-2017, 01:27 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Hope we dont panic, drop the kids and go back to the tried and failed...the new kids actually did ok and had their moments and need to be persisted with......
Charlie C wasnt great but is the future and I like his big frame in the team, looked a bit lethargic but moved better as the game went on and I think he needs some match conditioning. I'd probably like some cover for Weitering down forward who looked a bit banged up and I dont want him flogged trying to patch holes everywhere, if it means playing Jones or Jaksch to give the kid a spell during the game then so be it. I'd like to to see HarryMac in the team but dont want to rush him in either as he needs more time in the NB's to ripen up...
Agree, we absolutely MUST persevere with the young talent.
Re: 2017 Rd 2 Pre Game Panic Carlton vs Melbourne - laj - 03-24-2017
(03-24-2017, 08:09 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:There was a goal kicked by Rich at the city end last night from a boundary throw in during the first qtr. From memory, and I was at the opposite end of the ground, the Rich ruckman took it easily, after Cas stumbled cluelessly towards the boundary line, and either snapped the goal or hacked it fwd and someone else snapped it. It was an example of how poor Cas's ruck craft is and how little he imposes himself physically on a contest. If he cant ruck, cant impose himself physically and cant kick straight, his days are well and truly numbered. Whilst Phillips is injured, we don't have much choice and Gorringe is as soft as butter IMO. Its a problem area that I dont think we can rectify in the immediate future.
Actually thought it was one thing Casboult did well last night was ruck. That area is much improved. It was his lack of impact around the ground, especially in the first half was the issue.
Re: 2017 Rd 2 Pre Game Panic Carlton vs Melbourne - Jack Burton - 03-24-2017
Casboult was interesting last night. His first half was appalling, and yes that was Nankervis who nudged him away and took the ball and snapped a goal against him. But after half time it was like he woke up, got a bit of confidence after kicking a goal, and was better in both ruck and general play. I'm hoping he needed the run and will be better next week, we really need him to have his best year
Re: 2017 Rd 2 Pre Game Panic Carlton vs Melbourne - LP - 03-24-2017
(03-24-2017, 08:14 AM)laj link Wrote:Actually thought it was one thing Casboult did well last night was ruck. That area is much improved. It was his lack of impact around the ground, especially in the first half was the issue.
Nankervis is not really a useful measure, next week will be the real tell assuming Gawn plays.
Re: 2017 Rd 2 Pre Game Panic Carlton vs Melbourne - Jack Burton - 03-24-2017
How far away is Phillips? Kreuzer was good as a forward last night, 2 goals is a good return
Re: 2017 Rd 2 Pre Game Panic Carlton vs Melbourne - kruddler - 03-24-2017
(03-24-2017, 08:09 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:There was a goal kicked by Rich at the city end last night from a boundary throw in during the first qtr. From memory, and I was at the opposite end of the ground, the Rich ruckman took it easily, after Cas stumbled cluelessly towards the boundary line, and either snapped the goal or hacked it fwd and someone else snapped it. It was an example of how poor Cas's ruck craft is and how little he imposes himself physically on a contest. If he cant ruck, cant impose himself physically and cant kick straight, his days are well and truly numbered. Whilst Phillips is injured, we don't have much choice and Gorringe is as soft as butter IMO. Its a problem area that I dont think we can rectify in the immediate future.
I never saw a replay, but on first viewing it looked like it should've been a free given to casboult for a push.
There were many examples of his ruckwork being sub-par however...and he got beaten by a 'nobody'.
FWIW, i said in another thread, drop Casboult, put Rowe in his role of forward/2nd ruck.
Plowman and Marchbank can cope down back, have White as help. Keep Weitering forward.
Re: 2017 Rd 2 Pre Game Panic Carlton vs Melbourne - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-24-2017
(03-24-2017, 09:22 AM)Jack Burton link Wrote:How far away is Phillips? Kreuzer was good as a forward last night, 2 goals is a good return
Tend to agree with my old mate Jim on Kruezer that he does his best work when he is the lone specialist ruckman rather than equally sharing the load.
I like Philips and reckon he gave us value last season but its hard fitting him in when Kruezer is going so well...Casboults rucking was ok vs the Tigers IMO and in some ways
it helps bring him into the game when he is a bit rusty and having a run on the ball often benefits his marking and general play.
Re: 2017 Rd 2 Pre Game Panic Carlton vs Melbourne - Baggers - 03-24-2017
I suspect we'll see a much better showing from our blokes on Sunday next against the ...'Go Dees' (said with a posh lisp from a bloke wearing a Range Rover bow tie).
McKay, Palmer, Kerridge, Lamb and Graham would be in line for promotion but, looking back on last year we are loathe to make wholesale changes so I would anticipate 2, max. Should be interesting.
Re: 2017 Rd 2 Pre Game Panic Carlton vs Melbourne - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-24-2017
(03-24-2017, 09:54 AM)Baggers link Wrote:I suspect we'll see a much better showing from our blokes on Sunday next against the ...'Go Dees' (said with a posh lisp from a bloke wearing a Range Rover bow tie).
McKay, Palmer, Kerridge, Lamb and Graham would be in line for promotion but, looking back on last year we are loathe to make wholesale changes so I would anticipate 2, max. Should be interesting.
Dees are strong in the midfield and have a good ruck in Gawn, reckon Kerridge and Palmer might get a game this week.....hope somebody connects with Viney hard...most teams have one annoying player and with Melbourne its Viney. Always trying to pull players of his teammates or push opposing players around....Libba does same for the Dogs....