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Re: 2017 VFL Practice match Carlton vs Richmond - Professer E - 03-23-2017
and Daisy's effort and intensity is senior standard? Really?
Re: 2017 VFL Practice match Carlton vs Richmond - kruddler - 03-23-2017
(03-23-2017, 10:36 AM)Professer E link Wrote:and Daisy's effort and intensity is senior standard? Really?
Its streets ahead of some of the blokes playing VFL.
See Cuningham, Boekhorst, Jaksch, Jones, Sumner, Graham...
Re: 2017 VFL Practice match Carlton vs Richmond - Baggers - 03-23-2017
Graham was hard at it today, don't worry about that. If only he could bring his VFL form to AFL level. In fact there might be a senior player or two, based on tonight's effort, who could be replaced by Graham and even Palmer! I also don't think you could question the effort from Jones and Jaksch today.
Re: 2017 VFL Practice match Carlton vs Richmond - Professer E - 03-23-2017
Rubbish. Coughed up multiple goals with handling errors, kicked atrociously around the ground, applied zero tackling pressure and so slow he couldn't run out of sight on a dark night. He might try harder than some of the kids in the VFL but what he does is utterly ineffective thus it is a complete and utter waste of time continuing to play him at senior level.
Re: 2017 VFL Practice match Carlton vs Richmond - kruddler - 03-23-2017
(03-23-2017, 11:02 AM)Professer E link Wrote:Rubbish. Coughed up multiple goals with handling errors, kicked atrociously around the ground, applied zero tackling pressure and so slow he couldn't run out of sight on a dark night. He might try harder than some of the kids in the VFL but what he does is utterly ineffective thus it is a complete and utter waste of time continuing to play him at senior level.
When people handball it to you the ground you are going to have handling issues. Murphy cost us that goal, not Daisy.
Daisy had 5 I50's, a goal and a goal assist. Was far from the worst bloke out there.
Rewatch the last few minutes of the game. Tigers running the ball on the near side wing, tight to the boundary. I forget who it was but there was some carlton bloke jogging along behind him and the ball. Daisy comes flying past him to put the pressure on. Doesn't get a stat, but gives effort 100% of the time.
That's why he is in the side. To show the kids effort is unconditional.
Nobody is saying he is still a gun footballer. He is paid more than he should be, but that is not Daisys fault. Judge him on what he does on the ground, not his paycheque.
@Baggers...
VFL form doesn't translate to AFL form.
I'm talking effort at AFL level. All those players i've mentioned have put in terrible efforts at AFL level in terms of body language and effort.
Re: 2017 VFL Practice match Carlton vs Richmond - Professer E - 03-23-2017
An over the top goal, whoopdy do.
He got pinged for chucking it, don't see how that wasn't his fault. Should have the strength to protect the ball enough to get rid of it correctly.
Watch the last quarter again, he was insipid. He ran around chasing kicks while tiger half forwards ran around doing whatever they wanted. Two of the inside 50's were dreadful, one was a meaningless 15 yard kick oton a bloke's head, the other was a finger breaking mongrel bomb. Worthless. Both got rebounded instantly.
His ball use ATM is criminally bad.
So he got a few stats early, the truth is that his effectiveness was zero.
Re: 2017 VFL Practice match Carlton vs Richmond - kruddler - 03-23-2017
(03-23-2017, 11:16 AM)Professer E link Wrote:He got pinged for chucking it, don't see how that wasn't his fault.
When you get a fist on the ball, and the ump doesn't see it. That's how its not his fault. Even the commentators pointed that out.
Re: 2017 VFL Practice match Carlton vs Richmond - kruddler - 03-23-2017
(03-23-2017, 11:16 AM)Professer E link Wrote:His ball use ATM is criminally bad.
Rated 10/22 for disposal efficiency. Yet single him out why don't you.
Re: 2017 VFL Practice match Carlton vs Richmond - Professer E - 03-23-2017
Does 10/22 mean 45% on target or 10th best out of 22 ?
Either way it's not good enough for a senior player, apparently a leader, on big coin.
Face it Kruddler, he's cooked and shouldn't be out there.
Re: 2017 VFL Practice match Carlton vs Richmond - DJC - 03-23-2017
Having watched both games, I thought that Cuningham's effort, defensive pressure, disposal effectiveness and impact was well ahead of what Thomas produced. I'd have Graham ahead of Thomas too, despite his limitations.
Palmer was another player who, while not really standing out, did his job and was composed (as you would expect).