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Re: JLT game 3 - DJC - 03-08-2017

(03-08-2017, 06:16 AM)kruddler link Wrote:So do i....partially because i want to see everyone complain when he isn't up to the standard they'd pumped him up to be in their own minds.

People have already jumped off Smedts and Palmer. Might as well add another one to the list.  :Smile

I don't get this  :-\

While I may disagree with aspects of the club's list management from time to time, every player on our list has my full support even if their success shows that my football judgement is awry.

Alex Silvagni, Smedts and Palmer were added to our list for a reason and, from what I've seen of the latter two, they've met expectations.  I'd prefer to see Alex play out the season in the NBs but, if needed, he'll do his job.


Re: JLT game 3 - PaulP - 03-08-2017

(03-08-2017, 09:14 AM)DJC link Wrote:I don't get this  :-\

While I may disagree with aspects of the club's list management from time to time, every player on our list has my full support even if their success shows that my football judgement is awry.


Alex Silvagni, Smedts and Palmer were added to our list for a reason and, from what I've seen of the latter two, they've met expectations.  I'd prefer to see Alex play out the season in the NBs but, if needed, he'll do his job.

Bingo.


Re: JLT game 3 - bmaurizio - 03-08-2017

Alex Silvagni will be a good inclusion and contribute his part and steady the youngsters, down back.
He'll suprise a few and should play round 1.


Re: JLT game 3 - BluePhantom - 03-08-2017

(03-08-2017, 09:42 AM)bmaurizio link Wrote:Alex Silvagni will be a good inclusion and contribute his part and steady the youngsters, down back.
He'll suprise a few and should play round 1.

Here's hoping  Smile


Re: JLT game 3 - kruddler - 03-08-2017

(03-08-2017, 09:14 AM)DJC link Wrote:I don't get this  :-\

While I may disagree with aspects of the club's list management from time to time, every player on our list has my full support even if their success shows that my football judgement is awry.

Alex Silvagni, Smedts and Palmer were added to our list for a reason and, from what I've seen of the latter two, they've met expectations.  I'd prefer to see Alex play out the season in the NBs but, if needed, he'll do his job.

Let me elaborate.

Right now, Alex Silvagni is a bright new shiny toy in an unopened box. Our imaginations are running wild with all his tricks of the trade. We've all read about what he CAN do. Since he is still in his box, we are yet to find out what he cannot do.

He will remain as 'the great white hope' (as our other recruits were - in which most automatically made our best 22) and will be called for as an in each and every week we lose as a fix.
Then, finally we take him out of the box and play him. Then we see him for who he is, warts and all. Maybe he does ok, maybe not. But i doubt he'll be able to live up to everyones expectations of him.

The sooner we take him out of the box, the sooner we can see he's just 'malibu stacy with a new hat' and we can move on.

Not following??
See Jaksch in 2016.



Re: JLT game 3 - BluePhantom - 03-08-2017

Rowe will probably help in the ruck against man mountain Sandi with Phillips and Gorringe out. Wouldn't want MK to do it all himself.


Re: JLT game 3 - PaulP - 03-08-2017

(03-08-2017, 06:16 AM)kruddler link Wrote:So do i....partially because i want to see everyone complain when he isn't up to the standard they'd pumped him up to be in their own minds.

People have already jumped off Smedts and Palmer. Might as well add another one to the list.  :Smile

Not quite sure what standard you're referring to - most on here just want him to be a useful contributor - some are more sure of this eventuating than others. Even the most eternal of optimists on here aren't expecting him to be a star in our team.

The season hasn't even started yet. Perhaps we should give him a chance first.


Re: JLT game 3 - DJC - 03-08-2017

(03-08-2017, 09:53 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Let me elaborate.

Right now, Alex Silvagni is a bright new shiny toy in an unopened box. Our imaginations are running wild with all his tricks of the trade. We've all read about what he CAN do. Since he is still in his box, we are yet to find out what he cannot do.

He will remain as 'the great white hope' (as our other recruits were - in which most automatically made our best 22) and will be called for as an in each and every week we lose as a fix.
Then, finally we take him out of the box and play him. Then we see him for who he is, warts and all. Maybe he does ok, maybe not. But i doubt he'll be able to live up to everyones expectations of him.

The sooner we take him out of the box, the sooner we can see he's just 'malibu stacy with a new hat' and we can move on.

Not following??
See Jaksch in 2016.

I can't really see any link between Jaksch and Silvagni.  Jaksch was a speculative trade with long term potential and considerable doubts about his ability to play AFL.  Nothing has really changed although the doubts are mounting and the potential is diminishing.

Alex Silvagni is a mature age rookie added to our list to provide cover in the event that we lose a defender to a long term injury.  While a couple of posters think that he will be elevated to allow Weitering to go forward, I doubt whether he'll play a game at senior level.  If he does get the opportunity, I'm sure that he will perform adequately, as his career with Fremantle suggests.

I couldn't give a flying fudge at a rolling donut about people's expectations but I doubt whether anyone sees him as the 'great white hope'.  He's a good ordinary footballer who I think will fill a short term need. I'd love him to prove me wrong by playing 50 games.


Re: JLT game 3 - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-08-2017

(03-08-2017, 09:53 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Let me elaborate.

Right now, Alex Silvagni is a bright new shiny toy in an unopened box. Our imaginations are running wild with all his tricks of the trade. We've all read about what he CAN do. Since he is still in his box, we are yet to find out what he cannot do.

He will remain as 'the great white hope' (as our other recruits were - in which most automatically made our best 22) and will be called for as an in each and every week we lose as a fix.
Then, finally we take him out of the box and play him. Then we see him for who he is, warts and all. Maybe he does ok, maybe not. But i doubt he'll be able to live up to everyones expectations of him.

The sooner we take him out of the box, the sooner we can see he's just 'malibu stacy with a new hat' and we can move on.

Not following??
See Jaksch in 2016.

Alex S was dumped by Freo so he is more of a used toy in a supermarket recycle bag thats been left outside an op shop, nothing shiny about him...dont think there are too many high expectations of him other than steady the ship down back when required and plug some leaks
Palmer was offloaded for salary cap reasons if you believe the rumours at the time and Smedts was a busted up truck that had been in the Cats backyard and was off to the wreckers if we had not been interested.
If we get some decent games out of them its a bonus, if we get nothing then its disappointing but no tragedy...



Re: JLT game 3 - flyboy77 - 03-08-2017

Alex Silvagni - meh, but good luck to the bloke. Clearly can play the game at the highest level....but would have preferred other in the draft.

Palmer - will be very good for us, give the bloke more than 2 pre season games. Got picked in the PF team for GWS FFS.

Smedts - who knows, could be a 150 game player or a 10 game player for the Blues. The Cats' rated him highly but rumours I heard (or read perhaps?) was that he liked to party pretty hard....and he's had some really rotten luck injury wise.....