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Re: Mundine - Green, should cheats prosper? - ElwoodBlues1 - 02-04-2017
I dont like Mundine but I too thought he won the fight on clean point scoring punches, I watched a replay and I thought it was a messy fight with little damage to either fighter and wondered about the validity of the fight. Green came harder early like he did in the first fight but didnt land much even though the punches thrown looked impressive but they didnt hit much. Mundine seemed happy to counter punch, weave away and then hold on when it was in close, I felt he should have been penalised for holding on more than he was early. He was the fitter man in the end and Green was sucking in the big breaths as Mundine picked him off with some good counter punches...
It was almost like the two fighters agreed not to hurt each other and just pocket the 10 mill...
Biggest disgrace was the Quade Cooper vs the Milkybar kid fight..not sure how that was ever sanctioned...the Cooper camp must have said find me something I can beat up on that cant fight back and will have blown out after one round....Cooper was a foot taller and at least looks like a fighter , Jack McInnes had more rolls of fat on him than Doris the Pig at the Royal Melbourne Show. 22 year old??...I'd be checking that kids birth certificate, looked about 16....
Lucky he didnt get badly hurt...a real Pro would have bashed that kid senseless...
Re: Mundine - Green, should cheats prosper? - ElwoodBlues1 - 02-04-2017
(02-04-2017, 03:15 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:They fought a decade ago in their primes and Mundine thrashed him. I don't like him but he is a better boxer than Danny Green.
Agree..Mundine is the smarter technical boxer and Green the street fighter looking for the big payday punch....the former just keeps away from the big glory punches early and then uses his fitness and skill to rack up the points later in the fight...
Like I said in the other post I reckon this fight might have had a bit of scripting and WWE theatre about it ...
Re: Mundine - Green, should cheats prosper? - sandsmere - 02-04-2017
Green won the fight!!!
Re: Mundine - Green, should cheats prosper? - bigblue - 02-04-2017
(02-04-2017, 02:21 AM)laj link Wrote:I don't care what you accept, wouldn't take it seriously anyway. Sometimes you can really dribble crap.
Have another look then. It was a late shot but certainly not deliberately late as they were tied up in a clinch. Any idiot knows that.
Are you barking serious ?
MAYBE YOU should have another look. GREEN WASNT EVEN FACING Mundine. The ref separated them and Mundine hit him from BEHIND.
Green never even saw it coming. There is cheap shots and there are cheap shots. Mundine should count himself lucky he wasnt disqualified for it.
Mundine may well have won the rest of the fight but I'd like to see any boxer past or present get that punch in the same circumstances and go on to fight !
Re: Mundine - Green, should cheats prosper? - LP - 02-04-2017
(02-04-2017, 05:32 AM)bigblue link Wrote:[quote author=laj link=topic=3295.msg183407#msg183407 date=1486174871]
................Any idiot knows that.
Are you barking serious?[/quote]
I think Laj is showing us the forum post equivalent of a coward punch! :o
Re: Mundine - Green, should cheats prosper? - DJC - 02-04-2017
I haven't watched the whole fight but I have seen the first round several times. The referee clearly made a blunder in not telling the fighters to break before grabbing Green. Green understandably dropped his guard but remained fair game for Mundine and it was a legal blow.
The rules don't really cover a referee's error but, at a stretch, Mundine's blow could have been considered an unintentional foul and the fight declared a no contest; a popular outcome for all concerned
Re: Mundine - Green, should cheats prosper? - kruddler - 02-04-2017
(02-04-2017, 06:34 AM)DJC link Wrote:I haven't watched the whole fight but I have seen the first round several times. The referee clearly made a blunder in not telling the fighters to break before grabbing Green. Green understandably dropped his guard but remained fair game for Mundine and it was a legal blow.
The rules don't really cover a referee's error but, at a stretch, Mundine's blow could have been considered an unintentional foul and the fight declared a no contest; a popular outcome for all concerned
Mundine has been in enough boxing matches to know that he shouldn't have thrown that punch. You could argue technicalities and you might give him the benefit of the doubt if you're feeling very generous and its xmas day.
However, the fact Mundine was warned, repeatedly, for hitting Green in the back of the head (and seemingly not giving 2 hoots) and then highlighting that Green brushed him behind the ear moments later (far from what he was admonished for) shows the mindset of Mundine. That is, fight dirty and try and get inside Greens head.
I think the judges saw it the same way. Mundines dirty tactics were not appreciated by Green, the fans and the judges.
So back to the actual fight. From what i saw, Green was in charge early. Mundine was playing the patient game, figuring he'd have the fitness to come over the top later. Although he was indeed in better condition at the end, i don't think he really dominated like he should have.
To me the whole thing looked like 10 rounds of rope a dope, except the counterattack never actually came.
IMO Green was doing the majority of the attacking and Mundine was constantly looking for the counterpunch, but never pulled the trigger.
I've got no problem giving the fight to Green because he was the aggressor in a somewhat tame fight.
Re: Mundine - Green, should cheats prosper? - DJC - 02-04-2017
(02-04-2017, 10:16 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Mundine has been in enough boxing matches to know that he shouldn't have thrown that punch. You could argue technicalities and you might give him the benefit of the doubt if you're feeling very generous and its xmas day.
Yes, Mundine probably shouldn't have thrown that punch but it's a split second decision and he did nothing wrong according to the rules of boxing.
If the referee had called "break", both fighters would have had to have taken a step back before throwing another punch. The referee didn't call "break" so they can keep punching. Of course, Green stopped because the referee grabbed him but that's the referee's fault, not Mundine's.
Re: Mundine - Green, should cheats prosper? - ElwoodBlues1 - 02-05-2017
According to Danny Green the ref wanted to disqualify Mundine after that cheap shot punch but Green said No because there would be bodies in the street with a lot of unhappy fans...seems like that punch was more serious than most of us thought. Green said he should have got a 5 minute breather as well....
Re: Mundine - Green, should cheats prosper? - DJC - 02-05-2017
(02-05-2017, 06:01 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:According to Danny Green the ref wanted to disqualify Mundine after that cheap shot punch but Green said No because there would be bodies in the street with a lot of unhappy fans...seems like that punch was more serious than most of us thought. Green said he should have got a 5 minute breather as well....
Yes, the victim is supposed to get a 5 minute break after an "unintentional foul".
I reckon Green would have failed the concussion test.