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Re: Murphy to lead again in 2017 - kruddler - 01-11-2017
(01-11-2017, 03:01 AM)DJC link Wrote:Even with the retirement of Walker and Simpson coming to the end of his illustrious career, I'd be very surprised if Cripps and Weitering get the top jobs so soon. I reckon Docherty will be vice-captain or captain before Cripps or Weitering get the nod and I suspect Ed Curnow is ahead of them too.
It will be interesting to see whether Weitering makes the leadership group this season ... and whether Gibbs is returned ???
Rowe and Kreuzer could be leadership group candidates.
I reckon even Army could be a smokie for the leadership group. Won some community awards...
Re: Murphy to lead again in 2017 - DJC - 01-11-2017
(01-11-2017, 03:05 AM)kruddler link Wrote:I reckon even Army could be a smokie for the leadership group. Won some community awards...
Army is certainly very well respected ... and he is quite vocal on the field. Perhaps his one year contract and fringe player status will go against him.
Re: Murphy to lead again in 2017 - kruddler - 01-11-2017
(01-11-2017, 03:18 AM)DJC link Wrote:Army is certainly very well respected ... and he is quite vocal on the field. Perhaps his one year contract and fringe player status will go against him.
Hence smokie.
Re: Murphy to lead again in 2017 - ElwoodBlues1 - 01-11-2017
(01-11-2017, 03:01 AM)DJC link Wrote:Even with the retirement of Walker and Simpson coming to the end of his illustrious career, I'd be very surprised if Cripps and Weitering get the top jobs so soon. I reckon Docherty will be vice-captain or captain before Cripps or Weitering get the nod and I suspect Ed Curnow is ahead of them too.
It will be interesting to see whether Weitering makes the leadership group this season ... and whether Gibbs is returned ???
Rowe and Kreuzer could be leadership group candidates.
Docherty is a leader but not captain material IMO.....Cripps is the bloke you would follow into battle and who like Sticks Kernahan has stamped his authority on the team as the onfield leader .
Ed is a good foot solider but I know if I was a young player who I want would next to me when it got tough or when I needed my leader to show the way and it would be Cripps and Weitering.
We function better with a bigger player IMO as captain especially as we are not overly physical and get intimidated in this area and lack example setters....I want a captain who will set the example and back his players up...Murphy cant do it and I dont reckon Docherty is that type either.
Re: Murphy to lead again in 2017 - DJC - 01-11-2017
(01-11-2017, 04:00 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Docherty is a leader but not captain material IMO.....Cripps is the bloke you would follow into battle and who like Sticks Kernahan has stamped his authority on the team as the onfield leader .
Ed is a good foot solider but I know if I was a young player who I want would next to me when it got tough or when I needed my leader to show the way and it would be Cripps and Weitering.
We function better with a bigger player IMO as captain especially as we are not overly physical and get intimidated in this area and lack example setters....I want a captain who will set the example and back his players up...Murphy cant do it and I dont reckon Docherty is that type either.
I always put the binoculars on huddles before quarters start and during breaks of play and the blokes who do the most talking are Murphy, Gibbs, Docherty, Simpson, Curnow and Thomas. Matty Kreuzer is more vocal than Cripps.
I'd prefer to give him time to grow into the captaincy, if he ever does.
Re: Murphy to lead again in 2017 - flyboy77 - 01-12-2017
(01-11-2017, 06:59 AM)DJC link Wrote:I always put the binoculars on huddles before quarters start and during breaks of play and the blokes who do the most talking are Murphy, Gibbs, Docherty, Simpson, Curnow and Thomas. Matty Kreuzer is more vocal than Cripps.
I'd prefer to give him time to grow into the captaincy, if he ever does.
I'd always wanted Matty K as Captain - loves to lead by example and doesn't take any carp.....
Re: Murphy to lead again in 2017 - Navy Maven - 01-12-2017
To be honest, the best part of this conversation is that we seem to have some genuine emerging leadership options, which we haven't had for a while.
Personally I think Doc is next in line. I disagree that he'd be unable to back the players up, as he's got a bit of mongrel about him. Cripps is great, and will likely get the gig after Doc, but he's not ready yet. I mean he hasn't even cracked 50 games yet. I think to be an effective Captain in today's football, you want to have at least 100 games under your belt. Let him enjoy his footy and keep developing before burdening him with what will be an extreme amount of scrutiny.
Re: Murphy to lead again in 2017 - DJC - 01-12-2017
(01-12-2017, 04:32 AM)Navy Maven link Wrote:To be honest, the best part of this conversation is that we seem to have some genuine emerging leadership options, which we haven't had for a while.
Personally I think Doc is next in line. I disagree that he'd be unable to back the players up, as he's got a bit of mongrel about him. Cripps is great, and will likely get the gig after Doc, but he's not ready yet. I mean he hasn't even cracked 50 games yet. I think to be an effective Captain in today's football, you want to have at least 100 games under your belt. Let him enjoy his footy and keep developing before burdening him with what will be an extreme amount of scrutiny.
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Re: Murphy to lead again in 2017 - ElwoodBlues1 - 01-12-2017
(01-12-2017, 04:32 AM)Navy Maven link Wrote:To be honest, the best part of this conversation is that we seem to have some genuine emerging leadership options, which we haven't had for a while.
Personally I think Doc is next in line. I disagree that he'd be unable to back the players up, as he's got a bit of mongrel about him. Cripps is great, and will likely get the gig after Doc, but he's not ready yet. I mean he hasn't even cracked 50 games yet. I think to be an effective Captain in today's football, you want to have at least 100 games under your belt. Let him enjoy his footy and keep developing before burdening him with what will be an extreme amount of scrutiny.
We are one of the softest teams in the comp and need a player who the other players know has got their back and can handle themselves when it gets physical..I dont want a knucklehead/thug as captain ie a Mitch Robinson type but I dont want a nice guy either.
Ok the Cripps/Weitering being too young argument has some merit but at the same time I dont see Docherty being able to handle too many altercations either as he is smaller type player and we have seen Murphy in similar situations try his best but it doesnt work and we just get intimidated.
Maybe a Simon White in a Nick Maxwell/Tom Harley role is a compromise until Criipps is ready...
Re: Murphy to lead again in 2017 - Lods - 01-12-2017
(01-12-2017, 06:37 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Maybe a Simon White in a Nick Maxwell/Tom Harley role is a compromise until Criipps is ready...
I like White...he gives his best...The problem with him as captain is he may not be a best 22 player by mid-season.