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Re: Election 2016 - laj - 04-19-2016
Shorten has been very highly underrated throughout. Been strong, tactically smart ,has a unified party, has clear, concise policies compared to Turnbull, who has stood for nothing, full of short-term thought bubbles, waffled, dithered, leads a dived party, been the poorest Liberal Government ever on the economy, as the figures show, debt up, deficit doubled, and basically given up on his tax policy as the party can't come to terms on it. Can't trust them after the 2014 Budget. Thank goodness for the Senate on that one. Good reason why the polls have turned around as the people have worked him out. All talk, no action. Everything Turnbull does is based on negativity at the moment as he has nothing.
Be a close election. They might want to give the Libs another go, given they've just served one term, or they might be thoroughly sick of them. Could well be a hung parliament where the independents decides.
Re: Election 2016 - MosquitoFleet - 04-19-2016
shorten is a union hack that wanted the PM job 10 years ago when he was the awu head
oppositions should spend time formulating policy- he has got none and if there is a policy, its developed through the prism of the unions that represent 18% of the work force
Re: Election 2016 - DJC - 04-19-2016
(04-19-2016, 11:43 AM)laj link Wrote:Shorten has been very highly underrated throughout. Been strong, tactically smart ,has a unified party, has clear, concise policies compared to Turnbull, who has stood for nothing, full of short-term thought bubbles, waffled, dithered, leads a dived party, been the poorest Liberal Government ever on the economy, as the figures show, debt up, deficit doubled, and basically given up on his tax policy as the party can't come to terms on it. Can't trust them after the 2014 Budget. Thank goodness for the Senate on that one. Good reason why the polls have turned around as the people have worked him out. All talk, no action. Everything Turnbull does is based on negativity at the moment as he has nothing.
Be a close election. They might want to give the Libs another go, given they've just served one term, or they might be thoroughly sick of them. Could well be a hung parliament where the independents decides.
I think that's a pretty good analysis. I'm not a gambler but, if I was, I'd steer clear of betting on the election outcome.
Re: Election 2016 - cookie2 - 04-19-2016
It appears, as Abbot was a champion of the more extreme right of the Liberals, Turnbull is more a prisoner of it. The budget is his chance to really set things straight - I'm not sure that the present divide in the Liberal party will allow this to occur. This is the deep blue sea!
The devil on the other hand is Shorten. I like the sound of some of Labor's recent policy announcements BUT I don't trust Shorten and his union mates if they get to call the shots.
It's a worry either way.
Re: Election 2016 - DJC - 04-19-2016
(04-19-2016, 12:02 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:It appears, as Abbot was a champion of the more extreme right of the Liberals, Turnbull is more a prisoner of it. The budget is his chance to really set things straight - I'm not sure that the present divide in the Liberal party will allow this to occur. This is the deep blue sea!
The devil on the other hand is Shorten. I like the sound of some of Labor's recent policy announcements BUT I don't trust Shorten and his union mates if they get to call the shots.
It's a worry either way.
I like your analysis too Cookie
While I don't like the manipulation of senate preferences to give lunatic fringe candidates a gig, I would like to see more genuine independent candidates get up in both houses. That could keep the major parties honest, as Don Chipp once said.
Re: Election 2016 - DJC - 07-03-2016
I think that the lack of participation in this thread reflects the current disenchantment with Australian politics and political parties.
According to the latest AEC figures, the Coalition currently has 67 seats in the House of Reps and Labor has 71. Six seats are undecided so the Coalition can only get to 73 if everything goes its way. That means we're in for minority government and a period of unusual collaboration or great instability.
What's the chances of another election before the end of the year?
Re: Election 2016 - cookie2 - 07-03-2016
(07-03-2016, 12:49 PM)DJC link Wrote:I think that the lack of participation in this thread reflects the current disenchantment with Australian politics and political parties.
According to the latest AEC figures, the Coalition currently has 67 seats in the House of Reps and Labor has 71. Six seats are undecided so the Coalition can only get to 73 if everything goes its way. That means we're in for minority government and a period of unusual collaboration or great instability.
What's the chances of another election before the end of the year?
Bye bye Malcolm?
Re: Election 2016 - DJC - 07-03-2016
(07-03-2016, 01:02 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:Bye bye Malcolm?
Could be Cookie. At best it shows poor judgement; he should have called an election shortly after he rolled Abbott and his popularity was at its peak.
Re: Election 2016 - Thryleon - 07-03-2016
(07-03-2016, 01:22 PM)DJC link Wrote:Could be Cookie. At best it shows poor judgement; he should have called an election shortly after he rolled Abbott and his popularity was at its peak.
No guarantee that would have worked either.
I believe we will end up with a hung vote and we go again.
Re: Election 2016 - DJC - 07-03-2016
(07-03-2016, 01:59 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:No guarantee that would have worked either.
I believe we will end up with a hung vote and we go again.
No guarantees in politics Thry.
I hope you're wrong about going again. Maybe I'm being too optimistic but I'd like to see more a collaborative, pragmatic approach to running the country.