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Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Pre Game Premonitions - Robblues - 04-03-2016
HI was going to the game on the GC as well, but will be in Melb working through the weekend, didnt work that out to well did I? Even though will be interesting, from all reports Jaksch isnt up to a senior game as yet, Plowman got through a half, Walker may return, can see whole sale changes. Everitt, can certainly put in the bad ones , but think he has to stay , no one really challenging for his spot & at least he is a reliable kick
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Pre Game Premonitions - flyboy77 - 04-04-2016
(04-03-2016, 11:29 PM)Robblues link Wrote:HI was going to the game on the GC as well, but will be in Melb working through the weekend, didnt work that out to well did I? Even though will be interesting, from all reports Jaksch isnt up to a senior game as yet, Plowman got through a half, Walker may return, can see whole sale changes. Everitt, can certainly put in the bad ones , but think he has to stay , no one really challenging for his spot & at least he is a reliable kick
Doesn't matter how reliable he is if he can't be bothered to get his hands on the pill.....
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Pre Game Premonitions - Thryleon - 04-04-2016
I think we need to be more concerned about setting standards rather than worrying about the names on the team sheet.
If Jones has earned a game, and Everitt has earned a dropping then it has to happen, else we will never get anywhere.
What we won't know is the criteria that the coach is using to do these things, but Liam Jones has to come into the side if he is working hard, because it will encourage others to work hard and do what is asked to earn a game and hopefully build a positive team culture. Curnow really tried yesterday (Charlie). He is probably not up to competing with a team like Sydney as yet, but even in the fourth quarter I saw him put in two repeat efforts (admittedly the tackles were pretty weak) but he applied pressure, and got hands on two opponents in a sequence and thats the important bit. Executing the tackle will come in time, but all you can ask for is the effort from guys like him.
Likewise, you cant use the same standard for all players. A youngster will earn a game off a lesser effort than an older player because the expectation is different, but if you reward the right actions, and punish the wrong ones everyone will get it, and this will breed the culture we need moving forward.
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Pre Game Premonitions - cookie2 - 04-04-2016
At the same time effort has to be judged along with consistency. Flash in the pan efforts are also the road to nowhere - we need to see consistency in meeting the required standards week in week out. Liam Jones is nowhere near that standard as yet. so why would he get a recall?
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Pre Game Premonitions - shadesy - 04-04-2016
(04-03-2016, 11:40 AM)laj link Wrote:Jaksch for Everitt, Byrne for Phillips, Walker for Rowe
Think Rowe has been pretty solid first two games, couldnt help bu think yesterday our best 3 defenders are Weitering, Rowe, White...
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Pre Game Premonitions - PassIt2Carrots - 04-04-2016
Uh oh, Thry has found his new argumentative baby......Liam Jones, come on down! ;D
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Pre Game Premonitions - ItsOurTime - 04-04-2016
(04-04-2016, 02:08 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:Uh oh, Thry has found his new argumentative baby......Liam Jones, come on down! ;D
Jones will (rightfully) need to show 8-12 weeks of consistent effort and output in the lower divisions before being considered.
It's going to be a long first half of the season on these forums
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Pre Game Premonitions - cimm1979 - 04-04-2016
Hope the backline can keep their spirits up.
They are going to be under pressure for much of the year, coming off a year when they were under pressure 80% in 2015.
Would be an easy thing to drop their heads.
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Pre Game Premonitions - Thryleon - 04-04-2016
(04-04-2016, 02:08 AM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:Uh oh, Thry has found his new argumentative baby......Liam Jones, come on down! ;D
Nah just used him as an example as he kicked 3 in the praccy against Richmond, and then put his hand up again this week (if reports are to be trusted).
Personally, Id be happier if it were Plowman, Jaksch or Skittles putting their hand up and stating "play me" but if its Liam Jones then so be it.
(04-04-2016, 02:21 AM)ItsOurTime link Wrote:Jones will (rightfully) need to show 8-12 weeks of consistent effort and output in the lower divisions before being considered.
It's going to be a long first half of the season on these forums
Ill be happy if we end up the year saying that we competed as best we could every week and gave it our all at this point provided we beat Essendon.
Im under no illsusions, but we will need to face a fairly complacent side to get a win at this point as we look like we are missing too many cogs all over the park.
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Pre Game Premonitions - flyboy77 - 04-04-2016
Disagree,
Just entirely unacceptable when blokes like Gibbs and Everitt go AWOL as and when they seemingly see fit....
Gibbs especially.
What happened to the effort shown against the Tigers?